I grew up in a world where the Arduino already existed, but it was not until I tried building homebrew Z80 computers like this that I really felt I understood how computers/processors work at the low level.
Consider this a warning though: this hobby has caused me to involuntarily collect every model of Z80 powered TRS-80 computer.
I went through the exact same process, but with the 6502 (Ben Eater's videos, and then another SBC of my own design after). It's helped me become a better programmer too. Example: pointers in C now feel very natural instead of some abstract idea of "memory addresses, whatever those are".
And yep, I now also own many 6502 based computers :-)
I'm sure you already saw this, but in case others haven't: https://blondihacks.com/veronica/ is required reading for anyone into 6502. I was trying to rehabilitate a Cocktail Joust arcade cabinet I'd had in storage for years, and instead went off into a 6809 time warp for a while. Quinn's 6502 blog articles were helpful for inspiration while I breadboarded a really basic 6809 computer.
I ended up giving away the Joust machine to a guy (https://web.archive.org/web/20200709102945/http://www.robotr...) who had poured his heart and soul into Robotron disassembly and also was the Joust world-record holder in 1983, so I knew he'd appreciate it at least as much as I did. He happened to live in the area, and was more than happy to drive over and load it up. It's been 13 years since then. I hope he and it are doing well!
Factoid: It takes about six hours to reach 10 million points on Joust. Christian's record was 98 million points!
Not having my 'a-ha' moment with pointers until years into my education when doing assembly made me wonder why we don't start with a half-adder and work our way up from there instead of throwing novices right into C++ or Java OOP with no context.
That's how my comp sci degree went at Georgia Tech. There was a data structures and algorithms class first that used Java but then 2110 was building a computer from the (simulated) transistors up. I would've never understood pointers or C in general otherwise lol
The Z80-MBC (the original breadboard version [0]) was actually the second Z80 computer I built. I first tried out one of the Grant Searle designs [1] on a breadboard, and it worked!... for literally 8 seconds, then the single ACIA chip I had waited weeks to get died for no reason. But I didn't have any way to debug what was wrong.
It also didn't help that I didn't have many EEPROMs or an EEPROM programmer at the time, but the ATMega32A can be programmed with an ordinary Arduino.
Loved TRS-80 PCs and the COCO in early to mid 80's. My real first PC digital hardware class used those machines. Like most people in those days, could not really afford to purchase any but was gifted a COCO. w/ Editor/Assembler for experimentation :)
There's also an 1802 Membership Card—which I knew as the COSMAC Elf Membership Card [1][2]. Switches and LEDs. I built one of these kits a decade ago but mine didn't work. (I still need to pull it out and try to debug it. For all I know I did assemble it correctly and there is just a RUN switch or something I did not know to flip.)
Nice, I clicked to see if anybody had mentioned "the original." I built one of those as well. It is a very cute little system, and the 1802 is simple enough that the little front panel is a somewhat usable interface.
Love the Freak Brothers references; two US counter cultures that do cross pollinate. Z80MC RAM & ROM seem v generous compared to the ZX81 I used to cut my asm teeth, wobbly RAM pack and all...
It's a shame Zilog stopped making Z80s. Presumably this means you can't make one of these from new components any more. Perhaps someone could create a new iteration of the same idea.
The Z80 instruction set lives on via the eZ80, Z180 and others which are binary compatible with the original Z80 instruction set. Unfortunately Zilog stopped making the 40 pin DIP package a couple years ago so yeah this specific board will be hard to source. You can still find them on gray market, mostly ones that have been desoldered from existing boards.
Even if you made a version of this board with the footprint changed to the QFP eZ80, it probably wouldn't work because the eZ80 has different memory mapping and clocking differences.
The Z180 has however had its PLCC packages discontinued. Personally, I find SMD CPUs to not be appealing for these sorts of projects, even if the Z180 is a great chip.
Luckily so many were made, they will be around for a while yet. For years now you've been able to buy (recycled?) ones on Ebay or Aliexpress, and at a price much cheaper than the new ones sold for.
It will probably be a decade or longer until those sources start to dry up, but even at that the Z80 will never become as rare as say, a SID chip.
The 80's/90's VeriFone Tranz 330 credit card terminal, which has a complete Z80 computer inside with DART, CTC and PIO chips, 32K RAM, and a socketed EPROM.
The Cidco Mailstation, which has a Z80, sizable monochrome LCD, and full-ish size keyboard, perfect to hack into a TRS-80 Model 100 style laptop.
I think this is very cool, even though I have no historical connection to the Z80 it's of course a well-regarded and firmly entrenched/popular retro CPU.
But this really is a stretch:
The Z80 Membership Card itself is a stand-alone single-board computer that can "power up" your projects, like the Parallax BASIC Stamps or Arduino microcomputers.
Both of those are very commonly called microcontrollers, not microcomputers, since they have all of those extra chips merged into the single package of the CPU.
Take a look at the Arduino Uno [1] which is a very typical (if old) example: you will see that the board is not covered in ICs from edge to edge, since all of the main functionality is in the single-chip microcontroller. I think the second big-ish package visible is for the USB, but that also disappears on more modern controllers with on-board support for USB.
This is pretty eye-opening. It really drives home how simple the core control logic can be. Starting with toy cars or small-scale vehicles feels like a great way to teach and validate these ideas before layering on unnecessary complexity.
Consider this a warning though: this hobby has caused me to involuntarily collect every model of Z80 powered TRS-80 computer.
If you wish to become hooked anyway, this project might be another good place to start: https://hackaday.io/project/159973-z80-mbc2-a-4-ics-homebrew...
And yep, I now also own many 6502 based computers :-)
I ended up giving away the Joust machine to a guy (https://web.archive.org/web/20200709102945/http://www.robotr...) who had poured his heart and soul into Robotron disassembly and also was the Joust world-record holder in 1983, so I knew he'd appreciate it at least as much as I did. He happened to live in the area, and was more than happy to drive over and load it up. It's been 13 years since then. I hope he and it are doing well!
Factoid: It takes about six hours to reach 10 million points on Joust. Christian's record was 98 million points!
I know, you have to take a pragmatic approach… but feels like cheating… idk.
It also didn't help that I didn't have many EEPROMs or an EEPROM programmer at the time, but the ATMega32A can be programmed with an ordinary Arduino.
[0] - https://hackaday.io/project/19000-a-4-4ics-z80-homemade-comp...
[1] - http://searle.x10host.com/z80/SimpleZ80.html
http://www.retrotechnology.com/memship/memship.html
[1] http://www.sunrise-ev.com/1802.htm
[2] http://www.cosmacelf.com/gallery/membership-cards/
Even if you made a version of this board with the footprint changed to the QFP eZ80, it probably wouldn't work because the eZ80 has different memory mapping and clocking differences.
[0] https://github.com/gdevic/A-Z80
It will probably be a decade or longer until those sources start to dry up, but even at that the Z80 will never become as rare as say, a SID chip.
The 80's/90's VeriFone Tranz 330 credit card terminal, which has a complete Z80 computer inside with DART, CTC and PIO chips, 32K RAM, and a socketed EPROM.
The Cidco Mailstation, which has a Z80, sizable monochrome LCD, and full-ish size keyboard, perfect to hack into a TRS-80 Model 100 style laptop.
You can pick up either on Ebay right now for ~$25
But this really is a stretch:
The Z80 Membership Card itself is a stand-alone single-board computer that can "power up" your projects, like the Parallax BASIC Stamps or Arduino microcomputers.
Both of those are very commonly called microcontrollers, not microcomputers, since they have all of those extra chips merged into the single package of the CPU.
Take a look at the Arduino Uno [1] which is a very typical (if old) example: you will see that the board is not covered in ICs from edge to edge, since all of the main functionality is in the single-chip microcontroller. I think the second big-ish package visible is for the USB, but that also disappears on more modern controllers with on-board support for USB.
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arduino_Uno#/media/File:Arduin...