7 comments

  • taylodl 15 hours ago
    This headline was pretty much true 5 years ago, 10 years ago, 15 years ago...

    Don't get me wrong, I think Hurd is interesting, but I seriously doubt it's going to have a big impact on anything as it reflects the software engineering philosophies of the 1980s.

    • oxguy3 13 hours ago
      The "75% of Debian archive builds" claim is exactly the same 7 years ago. In fact, look at this slide from the 2019 presentation: https://archive.fosdem.org/2019/schedule/event/roadmap_for_t... (page 8)

      It is barely distinguishable from the first slide featured in the Phoronix article from today: https://www.phoronix.net/image.php?id=2026&image=gnu_hurd_1 It seems like there has been progress on other fronts, so I'm not sure why Phoronix ran a headline focused on very old news.

      Interestingly, the 2018 version of the slide claims "80% of Debian archive builds"; I wonder what caused the regression. https://archive.fosdem.org/2018/schedule/event/microkernel_h... (page 26)

      • philipwhiuk 11 hours ago
        > so I'm not sure why Phoronix ran a headline focused on very old news.

        It's just coverage of FOSDEM 2026 and I guess they assumed that the FOSDEM slides would show notable changes rather than the state of play.

    • hgs3 9 hours ago
      > reflects the software engineering philosophies of the 1980s.

      It has a microkernel architecture. That's already an improvement over the "modern" monolithic kernels we are stuck with today. Given Big Tech's interest in hardening security and sandboxing you'd think this would get more attention.

      • wolvoleo 7 hours ago
        True but it's not exactly new. I remember Andrew Tanenbaum and Linus Torvald's heated discussions in the early 90s :) Minix featured a microkernel before linux existed.
    • AtlasBarfed 13 hours ago
      Another example of if llms are so good. Why isn't a gap like this closed very quickly?
      • digiown 12 hours ago
        GNU projects and LLM contribs mix like water and oil.
  • sillywalk 15 hours ago
  • zeruch 10 hours ago
    Hurd is long past ever being anything but a pet project of RMS and his familiars.
  • jethronethro 11 hours ago
    Please let me know what it is "there". Then I'll start caring. Until then ...
  • acheron 10 hours ago
    While I laughed at the headline, it also fondly reminds me of reading Slashdot in the late 90s-early 00s, back before the Internet and programming and computers had all gone to shit.

    Good luck guys. At least working on this for decades is less damaging to the world than anything people do at Google and Facebook.

  • scoperesolution 14 hours ago
    Hah! It's been almost there for over a decade...
    • ja27 7 hours ago
      I remember talking about waiting for it to be ready in 1991.
  • mannyv 15 hours ago
    "Hurd Isn't Soup"
    • imglorp 15 hours ago
      Hurd Uses Repurposed Debian
      • wolvoleo 7 hours ago
        To be fair, GNU/Linux distros like Debian lean very heavily on the GNU part. They owe a lot to the GSF and its work is highly praised.

        Just their kernel somehow seems to be stuck in vaporware status. Probably because a lot of developers would think "why work on this when we already have Linux" which is a fair point too.