Blast from the past — I made the EDuke32 logo when I was teenager back in 2004. (I still have the PSD sitting around somewhere...) Back then there was quite an active community on the now defunct 3drealm's forums and I spent a lot of time contributing icons, logos, or web dev help to different Duke Nukem projects.
I don't think I ever properly played Duke 3D until recently, picking up the "Cursed Randy Version" version on Switch. But as a kid I was hooked on the level editor (and pixelated nudity.) Duke 3D's custom maps scene never eclipsed the popularity and duration of Doom or Quake, but there were some fantastic creations that really stirred the imagination and kept me in that editor for hours.
(There is also a port of the Duke Nukem 64 version, which whilst almost identical, does have a few interesting variations which makes it worth the try for a series fan.)
Back then I got the game from a friend, who handled me a CD. It was apparently a pirated version because it has that sort of red color progress bar installer.
I actually never made through E1L3 back in 1997, because it was very confusing for someone who only had about 15-20 mins of play every night — and I had to dodge from my parents who absolutely thought and still think that games are bad things.
But I was hooked with the end game screen which promised loads of goods (I still remember this phrase ) on the CD to make my own levels. Wow! I was instantly hooked! Alas, as I said it was a pirated version, and there was no map editor in the installer file. Back then people tend to strip any unnecessary contents off from the games and zip them into a compressed file.
I didn’t find the map editor until much later in my life. By then I have lost the interest of level design (I used to dab into Half-Life mapping because the pirated version was mercifully the full set of the original CD so it contained worldcraft.exe).
Nevertheless, very good memory. I still play its mods from time to time. Doom, Quake, Duke3d and Blood all have long lasting communities that produce loads and loads of goods throughout the years. They also built better tools and ports for us to enjoy.
It was a wonderful collection of rage inducing weapons: pipe bombs, laser trip mines, shrink ray (then step on them for the kill), freeze gun (any hit shatters for the kill), and the BFG.
We had LAN parties and would play for hours on end with custom maps we had built or downloaded.
Same! We used to host "Jetpack Freeze Ray" duels which ended when somebody was frozen causing them to plummet out of the sky and shatter when they hit the ground~~
Blast from the past indeed. Many many moons ago, I came up with a "bright" idea of designing a mod for Duke3D that modeled the office of my then-employer (large fintech company). At least I had enough sense not to boast about it - several months later a crazy guy brought a shotgun to HIS former employer and made national news, I don't think people would have taken my creation as lightly as I did back then. Still, working on it was fun.
Back when I worked at the AG Group (famous for etherpeek) we'd play late at night we could hear each other screaming from our offices, and I'd walk out of my office terrified. The laser trips were the best. This game truly holds a special place in my heart.
Doom, Duke Nukem 3D, and Dark Forces are my triumvirate of that era. Of all of them, Duke Nukem felt the most interactive. There are times I would clear a level of enemies, then play with all the gizmos the level designers put inside like the jail cell block doors of Death Row. The security cameras were so advanced at the time too! They rendered their view, in real time, on a wall TV. I wouldn't see that effect again until the 2000s. The levels felt intuitive too, at least the Earth levels, that I felt like an urban explorer in a way that Deus Ex would later capture.
Does anyone here have any background on Mac Source Ports? It's where I get most of the games on my Macs, but it's a little weird how there's no "here's who we are and why we're doing this".
The front page of reddit (not logged in) is 11 MB, logged in it is 17 MB for me (variable based on media-heavy subreddits and ads). Facebook's login page is 8 MB. Hell, Google's front, once a bastion of efficiency (long since fallen), is 9 MB.
It's sad how 19 MB now doesn't even register for me in today's bloated web.
I do appreciate that it puts up a warning instead of starting automatically, maybe not so much for the 19MB part, but for the fact that it plays sound.
Duke Nukem/BUILD was the first level editor that sucked me into level editing/mods, it is also the place where I spent the most hours. I later pivoted to more professional pursuits, however i killed a ton of time building new levels, and exploiting the engine to an obscene level.
I doubt I could get back into it these days, however, I hope the open source effort can inspire some awesome stuff!
Duke3D is one of those weird games where I don't respect it as much as Doom or Quake, but I have to admit I've had a lot of fun playing it at different points in my life. Some seriously great memories deathmatching with friends on the opening map, and the combat in the single player is often really good.
I honestly think DUKE3D is better than either of them. The levels actually look like what they're supposed to be, instead of abstract corridors with nonsensical props strewn about, as in DOOM. It could also be my habits, but I also find the DUKE3D's movement is superior to QUAKE's. I always feel like I overshoot my target position in QUAKE.
Agreed about Duke3D movement being superior to Quake's. Not Doom (at least not for me personally), but I agree about Quake, which feels "artificial" -- no momentum.
I played a lot of Duke Nukem 3D multiplayer in the 90s. We connected PCs with a serial cable, and later the game was available in a local “internet cafe”, except that cafe had no internet. Just games and a local network. I spent a lot of time there. Then, after several years, when I was studying IT in a different city, someone approached me and asked “hey, aren’t you by any chance “Phantom” from that cafe? We used to play together Duke Nukem.
Hmmm. I do sometimes play old DOS games. And then the era
of games that followed, say ... from 1995 to 2005 or so,
give or take. Though quite rarely nowadays.
I'd wish there could be an improvement of some of the old
games. Not to change their character per se, but to make
some small modest improvements to e. g. gameplay, usability,
perhaps even the graphics - without killing the old flair
it had. Anyone remember Alone in the Dark? I liked the
polygons, even though nobody would use these today. So that
can probably not be improved a lot without ruining the old
feeling. But content-wise? Where is AI when you need it?
Can't AI autogenerate more content for those games AND also
improve them modestly?
We have so many old books and movies. Can't AI autogenerate more content so that we had more Fellini movies or at least more Sherlock Holmes stories? Most worthy games have quite some work behind them.
If all you need is more levels for old games, certainly there are competent level generators for Doom and Quake, but don't expect them to produce something like Arcane Dimensions.
Back in 2003 or so some wonderful smart folks added accessibility to the Quake engine. Since then, there have been very few accessible FPS games.
I just took Claude, dropped it in the AudioQuake engine directory, asked it to write up a taxonomy of the accessibility solutions used to make quake accessible, waited, dropped the EDuke32 source next to it, and said "Let's plan for how we can make this accessible now using similar techniques."
I now have the beginning of a working accessibility mod[0], and am walking around replaying Hollywood Holocaust, something I haven't been able to do since I played with my dad (him driving and me shooting). It's kind of amazing, actually.
There are a lot of remakes of old games. Nintendo has done this a lot, but one challenge is these old games all come with IP and copyright, so it's hard to remake a game even with the technology. You have to have ownership and a good reason to believe people will buy a slightly updated game.
From the website:
"PC first person shooter Duke Nukem 3D— Duke3D for short—to Windows, Linux, macOS, FreeBSD, several handhelds, your family toaster, and your girlfriend's vibrator. "
It's a sort of duke roguelike with 100's of potential levels, you play through a a certain random number of them in a run. Also you unlock all sorts of power ups as you progress, enemies also get stronger and get random buffs. + Theyve added a load of mechanics, more weapons, enemies, more playable characters etc.
Duke Nukems are still my favorite games ever. One of the first game I played multiplayer with two laptops. I was 12ish years old. First game was actually retaliator, but that aside. Level design, graphics, sounds and the atmosphere was groundbreaking those days. Wish I was that age again.
Me too! I learnt a lot about how games „work“ by using the level editor and using more and more of the advanced features.
And playing your own worlds in 1vs1 serial linked multiplayer mode was a whole new experience.
Agreed, amazingly fun multiplayer experience. Also love Ion Fury, built in the same engine and having a satisfyingly tactical feel to it. What's interesting is the deep satisfaction with games from the 90s being more "tactile" isn't just about isometric games, it's in the shooters too. When did games get clippy (as in clipping through walls), squishy and plastic diminishing their feel?
I used eduke32 to blaze through DN3D once more on a boomer shooter kick a few years back. Which arguably never ended, as Doom and Quake mods make up most of my gaming time now.
I was into playing and modding Doom back in the 90s and just a few months ago rediscovered the community - I am just blown away by the effort and creativity that is going into these source ports and the indie games people are building on top of them. That passion and spirit of sharing is peak Internet/open-source.
I downloaded the AshesStandalone_V1_51.zip file, but it looks like it only contains the windows executable. For our linux friends, unzip it, install gzdoom, and then run this command inside the "Resources" folder to play it on linux:
I don't think I ever properly played Duke 3D until recently, picking up the "Cursed Randy Version" version on Switch. But as a kid I was hooked on the level editor (and pixelated nudity.) Duke 3D's custom maps scene never eclipsed the popularity and duration of Doom or Quake, but there were some fantastic creations that really stirred the imagination and kept me in that editor for hours.
(There is also a port of the Duke Nukem 64 version, which whilst almost identical, does have a few interesting variations which makes it worth the try for a series fan.)
I actually never made through E1L3 back in 1997, because it was very confusing for someone who only had about 15-20 mins of play every night — and I had to dodge from my parents who absolutely thought and still think that games are bad things.
But I was hooked with the end game screen which promised loads of goods (I still remember this phrase ) on the CD to make my own levels. Wow! I was instantly hooked! Alas, as I said it was a pirated version, and there was no map editor in the installer file. Back then people tend to strip any unnecessary contents off from the games and zip them into a compressed file.
I didn’t find the map editor until much later in my life. By then I have lost the interest of level design (I used to dab into Half-Life mapping because the pirated version was mercifully the full set of the original CD so it contained worldcraft.exe).
Nevertheless, very good memory. I still play its mods from time to time. Doom, Quake, Duke3d and Blood all have long lasting communities that produce loads and loads of goods throughout the years. They also built better tools and ports for us to enjoy.
Jeez. So many things to do, yet so little time.
Even the enemy AI could be modified (albeit relatively limited) by editing the text CON files.
Anyone else remember playing over LAN with friends, dropping a Duke hologram in an elevator along with a bunch of pipe bombs hidden at its feet?
We had LAN parties and would play for hours on end with custom maps we had built or downloaded.
I heard the sound effect of that when I read you're comment.
Blast from the past indeed. Many many moons ago, I came up with a "bright" idea of designing a mod for Duke3D that modeled the office of my then-employer (large fintech company). At least I had enough sense not to boast about it - several months later a crazy guy brought a shotgun to HIS former employer and made national news, I don't think people would have taken my creation as lightly as I did back then. Still, working on it was fun.
We also had a really good LAN there.
All ported and ready to go on Apple Silicon - they even have instructions on how to extract the needed data from Steam or GoG.
It's not exactly a secret, they just don't have a vanity page.
Play the (only?) WASM demo at https://midzer.de/wasm/duke3d/ (ported from https://github.com/GPSnoopy/BelgianChocolateDuke3D). Miserably only software rendering right now.
> "Click here to load ~19mb"
Oh, how sweet...
The front page of reddit (not logged in) is 11 MB, logged in it is 17 MB for me (variable based on media-heavy subreddits and ads). Facebook's login page is 8 MB. Hell, Google's front, once a bastion of efficiency (long since fallen), is 9 MB.
It's sad how 19 MB now doesn't even register for me in today's bloated web.
I have recently mentally registered that many people look at GB the same way in 2026
I doubt I could get back into it these days, however, I hope the open source effort can inspire some awesome stuff!
I think this perhaps to be the one?
I've probably bought 10 different versions in the meantime to make up for it
I'd wish there could be an improvement of some of the old games. Not to change their character per se, but to make some small modest improvements to e. g. gameplay, usability, perhaps even the graphics - without killing the old flair it had. Anyone remember Alone in the Dark? I liked the polygons, even though nobody would use these today. So that can probably not be improved a lot without ruining the old feeling. But content-wise? Where is AI when you need it? Can't AI autogenerate more content for those games AND also improve them modestly?
Various DooM ports go beyond replicating "vanilla DooM" and even beyond updating graphics, to adding true 3D, etc.
VMCI and HotA go way beyond "Heroes III on modern machines"
Augustus expands on Julius until it's not just "Caesar 3" on current equipment.
We have so many old books and movies. Can't AI autogenerate more content so that we had more Fellini movies or at least more Sherlock Holmes stories? Most worthy games have quite some work behind them.
If all you need is more levels for old games, certainly there are competent level generators for Doom and Quake, but don't expect them to produce something like Arcane Dimensions.
Back in 2003 or so some wonderful smart folks added accessibility to the Quake engine. Since then, there have been very few accessible FPS games.
I just took Claude, dropped it in the AudioQuake engine directory, asked it to write up a taxonomy of the accessibility solutions used to make quake accessible, waited, dropped the EDuke32 source next to it, and said "Let's plan for how we can make this accessible now using similar techniques."
I now have the beginning of a working accessibility mod[0], and am walking around replaying Hollywood Holocaust, something I haven't been able to do since I played with my dad (him driving and me shooting). It's kind of amazing, actually.
I am totally blind.
[0]: https://gist.github.com/ctoth/f955884813dd0daa497914108c467c...
Why they go this route is beyond me :)
It's a sort of duke roguelike with 100's of potential levels, you play through a a certain random number of them in a run. Also you unlock all sorts of power ups as you progress, enemies also get stronger and get random buffs. + Theyve added a load of mechanics, more weapons, enemies, more playable characters etc.
Duke nukem 3D is kinda the most adult shooter ever if you compute the ratio of age/controversy/sex/blood/possibilities.
https://doom.fandom.com/wiki/DeHackEd
Ive played a lot of excellent doom and quake mods...
* brutal doom, hell on earth starter pack
* blade of agony
* Hedon
* quake brutalist jams 1 to 3
* Arcane Dimensions
* alien armageddon (for duke3d)
but that one really stand out.
I downloaded the AshesStandalone_V1_51.zip file, but it looks like it only contains the windows executable. For our linux friends, unzip it, install gzdoom, and then run this command inside the "Resources" folder to play it on linux:
> gzdoom -config gzdoom-ashes.ini -iwad freedoom-0.12.1/freedoom2.wad -file AshesSAMenu.pk3 lightmodepatch.pk3 Ashes2063Enriched2_23.pk3 Ashes2063EnrichedFDPatch.pk3 +logfile log.txt