Breaking Free

(forbrukerradet.no)

141 points | by Aissen 8 hours ago

7 comments

  • madspindel 5 hours ago
    "Meta estimates that ten percent of the company’s annual revenue comes from fraudulent ads on its services – amounting to a dizzying 16 billion dollars.

    – Meta is earning billions from consumers being scammed. Even if the company gets fined – a process that takes years – the fines we have seen so far only amount to a fraction of these profits. In other words, Meta has no incentive to solve the problem. Meanwhile, the company doesn’t lift a finger to help its users, whether their profiles are misused in the scam ads, or they fall victim to the scams, Myrstad says. "

    • darkwater 3 hours ago
      It should be easy: 10% of revenue from fraudulent ads? Fines amounting to 15% of the total revenue. This way, Meta will be incentivized to invest ~5% of its revenue on getting rid of that 10%.
      • limagnolia 13 minutes ago
        The US Postal Service seems to derive upwards of 90% of their revenue (Or at least of the mail I receive) from similar scams. Are they going to have the same fines applied to them?
        • MarkusQ 4 minutes ago
          Common carrier vs. curated platform?
      • alphawhisky 2 hours ago
        Yes but also include accountability in the boardroom. If illegal things happen, a human needs to see court, not a company. Let the "risk takers" actually take on risk.
    • limagnolia 2 hours ago
      From the sources I have seen, that 10% was a projection for 2024, with goals to significantly reduce it in 2025 and 2026 onward. It also includes "banned" goods, which are not necessarily fraudulent nor illegal. I have not seen any data on whether or not Meta has achieved their goals of reducing fraud and banned goods advertising.
      • dotandgtfo 1 hour ago
        Considering the absolute deluge of politicians and celebrities allegedly promoting financial scams on norwegian Facebook my hunch is absolutely not.
    • notachatbot123 4 hours ago
      Where is that quote sourced?
    • Nursie 3 hours ago
      And somehow they are allowed to continue operating, and we accept them saying "we couldn't possibly actually police all this content! There's just too much of it. We're too large for such concerns!"

      I really wish the rest of us could turn around and say, to their faces "That sounds like a you problem"

      • brador 3 hours ago
        It’s like fake products on Amazon. The numbers are jaw dropping, the punishment non existent.

        If a real store had that much fake stock it would be shut overnight.

    • nine_zeros 4 hours ago
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  • skrebbel 2 hours ago
    Seriously the production value on that video is way too good
    • d-us-vb 2 hours ago
      The deadpan irony is on point. Something it seems the Norwegians have perfected.

      Another one of my favorite examples of this (an ad for Oslo tourism): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vhD59ac7nw

    • schappim 1 hour ago
      100%! I thought it was going to be way shittier. Suspect a budget > $1M was spent.
  • uzish 56 minutes ago
    What is a fraudulent ad? If a massive health influencer promotes a "healthy" powder that in labs does not show health benefits - do we consider it a fraudulent ad?
  • Epa095 5 hours ago
    From the english letter:

    To achieve a better digital world, where technology works for people rather than against them, several steps must be taken:

    1. Rebalance power between service providers and consumers. People should be allowed to control their digital experiences and decide how they want to use products that they own. It should be possible and practical to switch to alternative service providers, or tweak services they already use to suit their needs and preferences.

    2. Tackle dependency on Big Tech. To lay the groundwork for innovative products and services and pave the way for alternatives to Big Tech, competition in digital markets must be restored. Technology based on principles such as openness, interoperability and portability must be advanced through strategic investments. For example, the public sector should leverage its power as a major procurer to support alternatives to big tech through exploring options for ethical procurement of technology services.

    3. Double down on the enforcement of existing laws. Far from hindering innovation, regulations provide crucial guardrails to guide innovation and ensure a level playing field. Weak enforcement allows big tech to continue its damaging practices at the cost of freedom of choice, service quality, and innovation. To remedy this, enforcement of existing laws must be strong and vigorous. This includes the DMA and competition laws more broadly, but also other digital rules such as the GDPR and consumer law.

    4. Close the existing legal loopholes by adopting a strong Digital Fairness Act. Increase legal certainty and address loopholes in the legislation to better protect people for instance against deceptive and addictive design, and unfair personalisation.

    • girvo 5 hours ago
      I hope this leads to them pushing for Jolla and similar to not be locked out of banking apps (and EU IDs…)
    • Nursie 3 hours ago
      Reinstate strong powers to understand and adapt devices you own, rather than pandering to US industry interests.
  • kruffalon 3 hours ago
    It is so nice to see that in reality there already are useful laws to combat enshittification, we just need to use them.

    It is also hopeful that publicly funded organisation asks for better governance rather than just bowing down.

    Obviously it is in the Zeitgeist to do this now, could (should) have been written 20years ago, but who would have listened?

  • johnjames87 3 hours ago
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  • AxiomLab 7 hours ago
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    • just_once 4 hours ago
      Proud of myself for recognizing this was a bot without having to inspect further than this comment!
    • oytis 5 hours ago
      <nvm, accidentally talked to a bot>
      • prartichoke 5 hours ago
        You're replying to a likely bot account, check their comment history
        • oytis 5 hours ago
          Oh shit. Talking to a copypasta was less embarrassing