7 comments

  • jacquesm 35 minutes ago
    Oh, that's very neat, I can imagine that some future front-end to a SDR will have no antenna at all, just a bunch of solid state.

    The abstract of the paper:

    """Coupling a Rydberg vapour medium to both microwave and optical fields enables the benefits of all-optical detection, such as minimal disturbance of the measured field and resilience to very strong signals, since no conventional antenna is required. However, peak sensitivity typically relies on adding a microwave local oscillator, which compromises the all-optical nature of the measurement. Here we introduce an alternative, optical-bias detection, that maintains fully optical operation while achieving high sensitivity. To address laser phase noise, which is critical in this approach, we perform a simultaneous measurement of the noise using a nonlinear process and correct it in real time via data processing. This yields a 35 dB improvement in signal-to-noise ratio compared with the basic method. We demonstrate a sensitivity of 176 nV / cm / sqrt(f Hz) , reliable operation up to 3.5 mV/cm at 13.9 GHz, and quadrature-amplitude modulated data transmission, underlining the ability to detect microwave field quadratures while preserving the unique advantages of all-optical detection."""

    Emph. mine, at about -36 dBm that's not super sensitive yet though, but that formula suggests that at lower frequencies it should be a lot more sensitive.

    The paper is at: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-025-63951-9

  • peter_retief 21 minutes ago
    I immediately thought of the old crystal radios and a short search brought up this comparison. While old radios used a natural mineral (galena) to detect radio waves, modern Rydberg radio receivers use a synthetic photonic crystal (often made of silicon or glass) to guide and enhance the radio signal for improved performance.
  • ElProlactin 44 minutes ago
    A company called Infleqtion already has an RF sensing product that uses Rydberg atoms.

    https://infleqtion.com/quantum-rf-receiver/

    • jacquesm 32 minutes ago
      Is it really a product already? There are a number of renders but the 'products' link does not work for me.
  • rwmj 1 hour ago
    That raised the question, how do you make Rydberg atoms, and the answer is (always!) with lasers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rydberg_atom
  • rkagerer 1 hour ago
    We demonstrated simultaneous reception of neighboring channels with strong isolation between them." This enabled the researchers to monitor numerous radio channels at once, instead of tuning into them individually.

    Can anyone elaborate on this? How does a single receiver produce multiple concurrent outputs, and how are they isolated in this context?

    • jacquesm 51 minutes ago
      Because all of the signals are superimposed. So if your receiver isn't selective it will show all of them at once and if you then demodulate selective parts of the spectrum by filtering you can isolate the signals individually.

      Think of any antenna: it is just a rod or a coil, it may have a specific frequency that it particularly likes because that is a nice fraction of its wavelength or close to its own resonance frequency, but that doesn't mean it isn't going to receive all the other signals to greater or lesser extent as well. The ratio between that one that it likes and the rest is called selectivity. The lower the selectivity the more evenly you will receive all signals at the same time.

      Usually receivers have a tuned front-end to get as much of the signal you want and to repress the rest as much as possible but that is optional, you can have a wideband front end just the same.

    • amelius 1 hour ago
      I have no clue, but I would guess that they do not have a single atom but rather an entire crystal of them.
  • boznz 1 day ago
    Interesting, I learnt something new today. My only comment was the noise floor of the simple graph was very high-25dBm which (without having a clue how the physics works and skimming the article) sounds about right for something with no proper RF front-end.
    • Neywiny 1 day ago
      Where do you see -25 dBm noise floor? But chance do you mean a 25 dB SNR?
      • boznz 1 day ago
        The picture here <https://scx1.b-cdn.net/csz/news/800a/2026/rydberg-atoms-dete...> though I just saw the X-axis refers to audio frequencies, kind of confusing on first glance.
        • Neywiny 1 day ago
          That's dB not dBm, and the article says it's normalized to whatever power each of the two options received at. Nothing about absolute power.
          • jacquesm 4 minutes ago
            There is a mention in the abstract of the paper, see my other comment.
  • amelius 2 hours ago
    What modulation technique?
    • hausen 52 minutes ago
      Considering the mention to Family Radio Service, most likely they're demodulating FM.