7 comments

  • woodruffw 7 hours ago
    I’m a fan of this, although I’m concerned about the security/trust model: using a third-party CI orchestrator on top of GHA means trusting them with all of your secrets, potentially sensitive logs, etc. Those concerns are somewhat lessened in the context of public repos, but even public repos contain nontrivial workflows that use configured secrets.
  • stabbles 7 hours ago
    My experience with RISC-V so far is that the chips are not much faster than QEMU emulation. In other words, it's very slow.
    • wyldfire 2 hours ago
      Some of that could be related to the ISA but I'm hoping that it's just the fact that the current implementations aren't mature enough.

      The vast majority of the ecosystem seems to be focused on uCs until very recently. So it'll take time for the applications processors to be competitive.

      • LeFantome 1 hour ago
        The RISC-V ISA can be fast.

        Tenstorrent Ascalon, expected later this year, is expected to be AMD Ryzen 5 speeds. Tenstorrent hopes to achieve Apple Silicon speeds in a few years.

        The SpacemiT K3 is about half as fast as Ascalon and available in April. K3 is 3-4 times faster than the K1 (previous generation).

        This should give you an idea about how fast RISC-V is improving.

    • LeFantome 6 hours ago
      That has been the case so far but is changing this year.

      The SpacemiT K3 is faster than QEMU. Much faster chips are expected to release over the next few months.

      I mean things like the Milk-V Pioneer were already faster but expensive.

      One thing that has been frustrating about RISC-V is that many companies close to releasing decent chips have been bought and then those chips never appear (Ventana, Rivos, etc). That and US sanctions (eg. Sophgo SG2380).

      • mshockwave 1 hour ago
        One thing I observed is that RVV code is usually slower in QEMU
    • k_roy 3 hours ago
      Same experience here.

      At least for SBCs, I’ve bought a few orange pi rv2s and r2s to use as builder nodes, and in some cases they are slower than the same thing running in qemu w/buildx or just qemu

    • OsrsNeedsf2P 7 hours ago
      Oftentimes slow is fine, when the work is parallel and the hardware is cheap
      • LeFantome 1 hour ago
        RISC-V microcontrollers are inexpensive but “application” processors will be expensive until volumes increase.

        Performance will get “good enough” over the next 2 years. Prices will drop after that.

        • detaro 1 hour ago
          That the "good enough" SoCs will be arriving "over the next 2 years" is what the RISC-V advocates have told us for quite a few years now.
      • pelasaco 5 hours ago
        which, sadly, isnt the case right now
        • dlcarrier 4 hours ago
          It is the case for embedded microcontrollers. An ESP32-C series is about as cheap as you can get a WiFi controller, and it includes one or more RISC-V cores that can run custom software. The Raspberry Pi Pico and Milk-V Duo are both a few dollars and include both ARM and RISC-V view. with all but the cheapest Duo able to run Linux.
    • snvzz 1 hour ago
      The arrival of the first RVA23 chips, which is expected next month, will change the status quo.

      Besides RVA23 compliance, these are dramatically faster than earlier chips, enough for most people's everyday computing needs i.e. web browsing, video decoding and such. K3 got close to rpi5 per-core performance, but with more cores, better peripherals, and 32GB RAM possible, although unfortunately current RAM prices are no good.

      And it'll only get better from there, as other, much faster, RVA23 chips like Tenstorrent Alastor ship later this year.

  • camel-cdr 7 hours ago
    Sadly still on quite old hardware, with no RVV. Hopefully scaleway will have some newer servers in the future and this can be simply updated to the new devices.
  • IshKebab 7 hours ago
    Very good move. Hopefully GitHub won't ruin this with their CI charging changes.
  • singpolyma3 6 hours ago
    GitHub only :(
  • boredatoms 6 hours ago
    ..is this RVA23?
    • LeFantome 6 hours ago
      Not yet

      RV64GC (C910 cores)

  • Western0 7 hours ago
    Perfect for snooping on other people’s projects. No one in their right mind would touch this. It’s cheaper to buy the board yourself.
    • jubilanti 6 hours ago
      Yes, what a devious plan: give open source software projects a free CI service so you can... read their open source software code?
    • mhitza 7 hours ago
      It seems to be a Linux Foundation project, my trust is implicit higher than what you're claiming. Why wouldn't you trust them?

      It's also aimed at open-source projects, for free, with the intent to improve RISC-V support.

      • heliumtera 36 minutes ago
        Why would you trust anyone offering free candies?
    • LeFantome 7 hours ago
      RISE is supported by many legit companies. Stealing is for sure not the intent.

      The idea is to promote testing on RISC-V and to eliminate lack of hardware for being the reason not to. Obviously, low budget projects and Open Source are the primary targets. Commercial products can afford real RISC-V hardware.

      This is who you are trusting: https://riseproject.dev/members/

    • ctz 7 hours ago
      people better not be snooping on my public open source projects!