Internet outage in Iran reaches 1,008 hours

(mastodon.social)

88 points | by miadabdi 4 hours ago

9 comments

  • BariumBlue 1 hour ago
    Apparently there have been IRGC and basij curfew patrols shooting at buildings / windows of people who sing or shout anti regime songs and slogans. Apparently they are also (at least in some cases) dressing as women to avoid airstrikes. There has been very little photage and info coming out of Iran though.

    I still believe the Iranian government is more afraid of it's people than of the US and Israel - the US and Israel can bomb leadership and materiel, but without ground troops, regime capitulation is unlikely, unless the populace can themselves overthrow the govt (though that is hard to do when there is a major imbalance in who has guns).

    • jncfhnb 48 minutes ago
      This is all likely true. Although I feel people undersell how they work together.

      Iranians broadly hate their government, yeah. But the thing that gets them rioting is economic failure. Which the strikes have exacerbated.

      Social media is swarmed by people saying it’ll be like Iraq and Iranians will hate the US for its actions. I’m not convinced. My small anecdata of Iranian friends with contacts in Iran agrees with me.

      I think we could see regime change within a decade.

      • throwawayheui57 2 minutes ago
        > But the thing that gets them rioting is economic failure

        I believe Iranians want to be able to decide their own fate, with the dignity that all humans deserve. Without criminal domestic religious zealots and without foreign meddling and bombing.

        The previous protest was followed by the killing of Mahsa Amini, in morality police’s custody because of improper hijab. It’s not only economic hardships. But you’re right that war has made the situation worse, obviously.

        https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/10/iran-at-least...

      • nixon_why69 7 minutes ago
        If Israel and America can keep it in their pants and stop bombing civilians.. then yeah the government is very unpopular.

        If.

      • cpncrunch 19 minutes ago
        Why wont a general strike work? Not enough support? People have never had freedom, so dont understand they have 100% ability to bring down govt if they wanted?
        • payamb 16 minutes ago
          Due to years of corruption and mismanagement, leading to high inflation and high prices most people are below poverty line and living pay check to pay check and they won’t be able to literally feed themselves
    • rambojohnson 7 minutes ago
      attacks by the US and shitsrael are actually rallying large parts of the population, especially around nationalism and anger toward western imperialism. Even people who dislike the government can shift into a defensive posture when the country is under threat, which is what is happening right now.
  • gambutin 2 hours ago
    Noteworthy: It’s not that no one in Iran has no access. Actually some have internet access via “white SIM cards” (1). Reportedly 50,000 or so.

    Essentially, they’ve created a two-tier system controlling who can access the internet.

    (1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_SIM_Card

    • traceroute66 53 minutes ago
      > Noteworthy: It’s not that no one in Iran has no access. Actually some have internet access via “white SIM cards”

      Erm, dude, you did look at the graph on the Mastodon post linked to, right ?

      You see that bit where it falls off a cliff to 0% netblocks ?

      "white SIM card" or not, you're not getting internet if there's no BGP routes being announced.

      The only way around 0 BGP announcements would be satellite...

      I suspect your "white SIM card" was a pre-war status-quo ...

      • payamb 13 minutes ago
        That’s not the reality. Pro regime “white simcard” people have been spreading their propaganda since start of the war on twitter, instagram and elsewhere.
        • dmix 4 minutes ago
          Which is a big reason why Iran has been able to do so well in the information war. Lies in public to appear in control and totalitarianism for their own citizens to keep them in the dark.
      • dataflow 44 minutes ago
        > Erm, dude, you did look at the graph on the Mastodon post linked to, right ? You see that bit where it falls off a cliff to 0% netblocks ?

        Not sure if we're all looking at the same plot, but I see things hovering above zero, not exactly at zero.

  • traceroute66 1 hour ago
    Looking at it from an alternative angle, the Iranians are not stupid.

    They know leaving the internet online would be beneficial for their adversaries, perhaps especially as Israel is one of them, and Israel's use of cyber is no secret.

    So by killing the internet, they have an instant air-gap firewall.

    Making the most of the levers they have fighting asymmetric warfare.

    • payamb 4 minutes ago
      It’s proven time and time again that Mossad always find a way to infiltrate into even most secure Iranian network. This is mostly done to control the narrative and keep the pro regime supporters morale up.
    • jncfhnb 47 minutes ago
      It’s very economically harmful to be disconnected. That’s the downside
      • traceroute66 47 minutes ago
        > It’s very economically harmful to be disconnected. That’s the downside

        I mean, sure. But then being at war is also economically harmful. :)

        • jncfhnb 31 minutes ago
          I guess. But the framing here is not “clever, innovative IRGC” so much as oppressive regime fucking over it’s people to retain control.
  • JohnnyLarue 2 hours ago
    Bombing civilian infrastructure didn't turn the Internet back on? I don't believe that.
  • curiousObject 2 hours ago
    That’s unbroken 6 weeks of no direct access for almost everyone

    Of course information does still get in and out, but that is severely throttled

  • reliabilityguy 2 hours ago
    Is Iranian infra centralized on the similar fashion like in Belarus?
  • aaron695 2 hours ago
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  • gla67890543 2 hours ago
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  • metalman 2 hours ago
    and during that time those people waging war against Iran, murdered one Irainian child every 30 minuits, not counting the other children murdered by the genociders in Lebanon, Syria, and Palestine.

    predictable down vote

    but listen up, Iran has made a tactical move in this, but the implication is that they, like Afganistan are consideriing a strategic move, and many others are watching.

    more down voting, which is an excellent demonstration of how the internet is used by those that "own" it