6 comments

  • time0ut 1 hour ago
    Data centers are such great targets in modern warfare. A few cheap drones can inflict billions in damage with low direct casualties (if the attacker even cares). I have heard AWS in particular is secretive about the exact location of their data centers, but no doubt every major country knows exactly where they are.
    • jmalicki 10 minutes ago
      Just look on satellites for giant buildings with no cars or semi trailers parked in the parking lots.

      I wonder if data centers will have to start doubling as automobile junkyards to conceal themselves.

    • walrus01 2 minutes ago
      You can be secretive all you want, but it's extremely difficult to hide massive heat exchanging systems and/or generators from aerial/space photography. Particularly at the scale of an AWS-like datacenter.

      Building a fully camouflaged datacenter could be done at much greater cost, but you still can't hide its thermal emissions from infrared.

    • kdheiwns 53 minutes ago
      Big tech's love for cheap labor is a great mechanism for finding where all their most valuable assets are and mapping out any and all vulnerabilities. I imagine state actors are applying to any and all low paying jobs that have seemingly juicy job requirements and feeling out details during interviews. Even better if you offer to accept a salary far below standard rates and actually get the job.

      While probably not a state agent, I've personally done online interviews with some people that were clearly lying about everything and trying to feel out details about the company. People claiming to live in our country and being citizens but having little ability with the language, saying they would love to come to our city but it's a bit far, saying they graduated from a major university but being unable to describe anything about the town (with their resume mentioning graduating from a different university, and their LinkedIn a different university from either), random people moving around and arguing in the background, all their work was with random crypto businesses that shut down within months. I had to stop my coworkers from saying too much. I had to convince them why hiring that person for remote work and giving them access to our servers was a bad idea. There are without a doubt companies giving similar people physical access to their hardware. And there are undoubtedly people who practice interviewing to better deceive companies.

    • cute_boi 1 hour ago
      I wonder if you can uncover where the data center is just by using ping command.
      • yabones 42 minutes ago
        It could give you a rough idea, but it's far from precise. The delay added by a single router could throw you off by several KM.

        It's much more effective to just go through satellite imagery and land title records.

        https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=0.01+ms+at+speed+of+lig...

      • tcp_handshaker 42 minutes ago
        >> I wonder if you can uncover where the data center is just by using ping command.

        Not exactly, but you can uncover cloud providers like Google and Azure, who forget to tell you, their "availability zones" are in the same data center ;-)

      • sophacles 53 minutes ago
        You can find data centers by looking for hvac units in satellite photos.
        • hirako2000 10 minutes ago
          You can make a few phone calls. Maintenance is not avoidable until boston dynamics figure out how to clean the toilets at least.
        • Ekaros 40 minutes ago
          Probably also grid connections like size of transformers and if there is prominent number of trucks going in and out.
      • fragmede 56 minutes ago
        That's some of how geolocation works. Ping can't go faster than the speed of light, so that gives you a circle for where something is. Ping from enough places and you can get a good enough idea, if you're the Iranian Guard or otherwise.
  • logickkk1 20 minutes ago
    "Stops billing" makes it sound generous. If those regions can't run customer apps, not charging for them is just the minimum.
  • nerdsniper 1 hour ago
    I'm surprised this reportedly only affected 19 server racks. Some of the small FPV quadcopter strikes I've seen videos of have collapsed entire homes. Even if the structure is more resilient than a fragile home, I would have expected the blast from a larger long-range drone like a Shahed to damage more server racks than that.
    • bluegatty 55 minutes ago
      It's either 100lb or 100Kg, with a direct hit on a dense centre, it would damage a lot of racks, but if it's oblique, or indirect, impartial, the damage could be less pronounced. They could also be misrepresenting by diminishing the damage as there's a lot of information suppression going on.
    • downrightmike 57 minutes ago
      The sheer amount of metal on every rack makes DCs very dense
  • juliusceasar 4 minutes ago
    Thanks 2nd Epstein War for all the fuck up in the world.
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