iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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345 points | by alentodorov 8 hours ago

52 comments

  • kilian 7 hours ago
    The wallet app UI is the peak of Apple's 'single 20y/o in sf' design.

    Anyone that has multiple card from the same bank (because, say, you have a personal account and a shared account with your partner) has to do the "pick between the two identical looking top 20px of cards" dance every time they use Wallet to pay for something. It is mind-boggling that the current UI persists.

    • Terretta 7 hours ago
      The same is true in a physical card wallet.

      An 80 year old with early onset challenges can work this wallet, pick a card, and then hold the phone to the reader at a store. It's all co-opting "familiar" actions for them, not tech-like, which means they can do it.

      The biggest UX issue Apple has for that persona isn't the wallet, it's the lack of physical home button. Everyone in their 70s and up seems to be given pause every time they aren't on the screen they expect, and even to unlock it.

      Invisible affordances rely on memory rather than sight trigger: not good.

      • lode 6 hours ago
        > The same is true in a physical card wallet.

        Not at all.

        In my physical wallet, those identical looking cards have different names on them, ie. <myfirstname mylastname> and <mylastname - partnerslastname> for joint accounts. I can also mark them up with a marker, or request a different picture from some banks.

        In iOS I need to remember that the one ending with 0044 is mine, and 0073 is for our joint account. I have no way to add an alias or distinguish them otherwise. This is ridiculous.

        • Terretta 3 hours ago
          > I have no way to add an alias or distinguish them otherwise.

          Seeing ones own name on a physical card also doesn't say say which joint account it is, yours or your partners (my partner and I each have Bank X, and each have a card for the other, which only has our own name, so, I feel your pain).

          But, there is a way!

          1. Tap the card, then tap the card[123] icon upper right and "Enter physical card information".

          2. Either scan the card or type it in. Add the CVV while you're at it, seeing this later requires an additional FaceID.

          3. Add "Description" for "Mine" or "Joint" or whatever. (KEY STEP)

          When asked if you want to replace the card with same number say yes. It'll stay the same card, same transaction histories, etc., but now have a distinguishing description.

        • the_other 5 hours ago
          My banks provide different colour options for their cards. All my digital cards differ, even from the same bank. The alternate colours helps within the banks/ apps as well as within Wallet, so it's not just an iOS "workaround".

          I agree, it would be nice if Apple added stickers, but the problem isn't, IMO, as bad as you make out.

          Exceptions include transport and concert tickets. Most of the time this doesn't cause problems because I'm standing with the other people I'm travelling/gigging with, and the agent scanning the tickets doesn't care about any names on them.

          • thdr 5 hours ago
            > but the problem isn't, IMO, as bad as you make out.

            But it is exactly as bad as they describe it. My bank doesn't provide color options for my cards, and there is no way to distinguish my two cards aside from the displayed four digits.

            • dpoloncsak 5 hours ago
              ...so you keep the one you primarily use in the front of your card slot in your wallet, and the one you don't use often behind your other cards.

              Apple wallet solves this in a similar way, letting you arrange the order

              • thedougd 4 hours ago
                I didn't know I could do that, so I just gave it a try.

                First instinct, double tap the side button to open Wallet. Couldn't rearrange the cards there. So,I opened Settings app and couldn't rearrange the cards there. Finally, I opened the Wallet app and found I could rearrange cards there, though there's no visual indicators that I can. I accidentally changed my default card on the first attempt.

              • thdr 5 hours ago
                Yes, I can try to memorize the order of the cards. What a lousy workaround, and absolutely no reason to defend poor UI design.
          • Terr_ 4 hours ago
            > My banks provide different colour options for their cards.

            I'd like to take a moment to appreciate a tiny "UX feature" that punches above its weight: When multiple physical cards have different base-colors to their plastic, visible along the edge.

            This reduces how often you even need to check the face of a card. With several in one sleeve/stack, you can slide out the one you want, knowing that (for example) blue is credit, green is debit, red is the shared family one etc.

            With my kind of wallet, if I had to pick I'd rather customize the edge-color versus the faces.

        • alistairSH 5 hours ago
          That's not universally true.

          I have a shared checking account with my spouse. Both my personal card and shared card are the same, save for the actual card number.

          • jermaustin1 5 hours ago
            Same here. I'm in the US. I actually thought Credit/Debit cards had to have YOUR "full" name on them.

            My wife and I share MANY accounts, and none of our cards have a "shared" name on it.

            • bombcar 4 hours ago
              The only information sent to the card processor is the swipe (number expiration date) and sometimes the zip code and verification code on the back (if entered by hand).
              • jermaustin1 4 hours ago
                When my wife worked retail (20+ years ago), she had to verify the name on the card with the name on the machine with the name on their ID. They caught a decent number where the machine had a different name pop up than the card showed. And WAY more when comparing both to their ID.

                They called her "The Bulldog" because of how vigilant she was about it. That store lead the region in CC Fraud. But soon they were the bottom of the region in shrink and loss prevention.

                • alistairSH 3 hours ago
                  I worked retail for a bit in high school. I tried to check card vs ID name for about a week before the manager told me to cut that shit out - too many wives, kids, etc using "dad's" card (this was 1994, so it was almost exclusively dad's card - I imagine that's changed in the last 30 years).
                • bombcar 3 hours ago
                  At least in my experience the "name on the machine" back then was just read from the magstripe - I had access to a track 3 writer and had some fun copying my credit card info onto my driver license and swiping that.
                  • jermaustin1 59 minutes ago
                    > the "name on the machine" back then was just read from the magstripe.

                    It is (or was last time I played with card readers). But a person would sometimes use a stolen card with their name on the physical card so it matched their ID.

                    I guess people weren't updating it digitally? Maybe it was easier to just clone a card onto a card you already have?

              • chimeracoder 3 hours ago
                > The only information sent to the card processor is the swipe (number expiration date) and sometimes the zip code and verification code on the back (if entered by hand).

                For credit cards? No, that's not necessarily true.

      • bdamm 4 hours ago
        First; have you heard of a sharpie?

        Second; have you tried this with actual 80yr olds with early onset? Because I have. It doesn’t work, not even close. The steps require to get to that point are impossible for an 80yr old with early onset to even get close to. From trust, to setup, to even the stupid double-click with arthritic fingers, it’s fraught with roadblocks. And forget swiping.

        This is a massive problem. The lack of care for options to equip seniors with usable iPhones is a massive problem right now. It is causing suffering both in the seniors and in the people who love them.

        • testfoobar 3 hours ago
          I feel truly sorry for older folks navigating apps/logins/passwords/etc.

          Their experience is often utter shit.

          Two examples:

          1. Often older folks have their screen zoom maxed out for readability. Extreme zoom will often place critical fields and buttons off-screen - making the app useless.

          2. Fingers and hands of older folks often tremble. So imagine holding in your trembling left hand your phone, while you're trying to hit a target with your trembling right finger. All while standing in line to get a discount on your groceries.

          • HoldOnAMinute 2 hours ago
            Because technology is about promotions and shareholders, and not about the USERS of the technology.
      • gortok 6 hours ago
        But it’s not true of a physical wallet. I have 8 locations in my bi-fold wallet I can place any given card, orientation-wise.

        Lower left, lower right, upper left, upper right, inside left, inside right, dollar bills left, dollar bills right.

        • mh- 6 hours ago
          Isn't the same true of the wallet on iPhone? I drag and drop reorder my cards as necessary. There's a fixed number of positions that fit above the "fold" (in the scrolling sense).
          • gortok 5 hours ago
            No. I have only a vertical ordering available in Apple wallet. A card can be above another card or below another card. I have 3d physicality in a wallet that Apple wallet does not replicate.
            • mh- 5 hours ago
              Ah, so two+ columns vs one.
              • gortok 4 hours ago
                Two columns vertically, but four columns deep in 3D space.
              • forrestthewoods 2 hours ago
                I can fully control the location of cards in my physical wallet.

                The sorting of the Apple Wallet column is a mystery to me. I can probably control it. But I couldn’t tell you how. It also lacks tactile feel. So it’s just not the same. It’s a sloppy mess.

        • Forgeties79 4 hours ago
          I don’t know about you but I can’t possibly remember what’s in every fold and pocket because most of the stuff is used infrequently but is still necessary to have on me (health insurance card, for instance).

          I basically only know what’s in one or two places. I just end up rifling through everything until I find it

      • brandon272 6 hours ago
        > The biggest UX issue Apple has for that persona isn't the wallet, it's the lack of physical home button.

        I'm in my 40s and don't have much trouble with reaching Home by swiping up from the bottom. But anecdotally, when I observe a person who is 65+ operate their iPhones, 9 times out of 10 they experience problems swiping up from bottom to reach Home. The swipe up does nothing, presumably because they aren't starting the swipe from low enough on the screen.

        • delecti 5 hours ago
          The hands of older people are also just literally less compatible with a capacitive touchscreen, because skin retains less moisture as we age. If you've ever seen an older person licking their finger before turning the page of a book, that's why.
          • ridgeguy 4 hours ago
            Also, fine motor coordination often declines with age. Can make it hard to do a swipe or hit a key reliably in the first try.
          • Melatonic 4 hours ago
            I still like my physical keyboards - bring back sliders !
        • rkagerer 3 hours ago
          One stupid button would solve all that. I'm of similar age as you and really miss buttons. In my car, on my devices, on appliances, etc. There are applications where capacitive touchscreen buttons make sense but by and large all they've done over the last 15 years or so is enshittify everything.
      • toast0 6 hours ago
        > The same is true in a physical card wallet.

        You can markup a card in a physical wallet. And then originally identical cards become visually distinguishable.

        • mh- 6 hours ago
          Riffing on your comment: would be neat if Apple let you add a sticker to the corner of each card.
          • pivo 5 hours ago
            Yes, exactly. Or some simple text to overlay at the top of the card, it's a very easy problem to solve as far as I can tell.
      • jonas21 5 hours ago
        > the lack of physical home button

        You can use the Accessibility settings to add a virtual home button that's always displayed in the same place on-screen. That seems to work pretty well for the older folks I know.

        • odysseus 3 hours ago
          It wasn’t obvious where to add a virtual home button, so I’m adding instructions here:

          Settings > Accessibility > Touch > Assistive Touch

      • kungito 6 hours ago
        I put a small piece of tape over my gym card since wife has identical one. Freedom of customization
      • dstroot 3 hours ago
        > “The biggest UX issue Apple has for that persona isn't the wallet, it's the lack of physical home button”

        So true! Also my 84 year old mother can never figure the difference between a web site and an app. If I could add a home button and solve the second issue her life would be much better.

      • rurp 3 hours ago
        Apple and Tesla are two companies that somehow have a widespread reputation for great UX that I think are absolutely atrocious in that area. It's not just 70 yearolds, an iphone is unusuable for someone of any age if they've never used one before and don't have someone to tell them how to do core actions like back or home.

        Tesla loves to hide critical functionality in non-standard places, often buried in touch screen menus. They can move items at any time. That's insane to me, but I guess I'm the outlier.

        Android's move to gestures is lame copycat behavior. I've actually seen people online defending it on the grounds that using gestures feels cooler. Maybe that explains it, many people will take UI gimmicks over solid usability.

        • FireBeyond 3 hours ago
          Right, especially Tesla. The one thing I will say about Tesla's UI (not UX) is that for a while (and admittedly to this day, still, largely) it looked far better and pleasing than most auto UIs. But 1) others are catching up on that front, and 2) as you say, the UX is often garbage.
      • Melatonic 4 hours ago
        And lack of a "back" button. Although they have sort of improved that with the little teeny tiny back arrow that sometimes appears in the upper left of the screen and is hard to click
      • ravenstine 6 hours ago
        What does an 80 year old (or anyone really) need with more than one or two cards on a daily basis where this would be an issue? Not being flippant; I legit want to know what leads to this. I have multiple cards but there's only one I use 99% of the time, and it's pink so it stands out.
        • kergonath 6 hours ago
          > What does an 80 year old (or anyone really) need with more than one or two cards on a daily basis where this would be an issue?

          In my physical wallet I can take the card I use daily (which is on a limited account and no big deal if I lose it) and leave the others at home. On my phone, there are all the cards I ever used or plan to use at some point in the future.

          • mh- 6 hours ago
            To that end, I do wish there was a way to hide some cards in wallet inside a "folder" or something. As is, they're there front and center, or not added at all.
        • ghaff 6 hours ago
          I'm not 80 but do have a backup credit card and debit card and I do travel. So it's not so much "daily basis" but I do have a handful of cards that I keep with me.
          • PaulHoule 4 hours ago
            In my house we have two businesses [1][2] so that adds two cards. You may also have a card for medical expenses that can be reimbursed with a FSA/HSA or a prepaid debit card that you got as a gift, etc.

            [1] don't tell Mr. Fox he's running a business

            [2] ... and will probably be adding a third

        • bombcar 4 hours ago
          Some banks have their debit and credit cards almost identical.

          You may have multiple cards from the same bank (personal, family, business).

          Different cash back from the same bank making you want to use one card over another.

        • reaperducer 6 hours ago
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          • ChrisMarshallNY 5 hours ago
            > Just wait. You'll find out.

            That was a bit blunt; but absolutely true. I'm 64, and never really gave much thought to being here.

            Seems like a lot of folks in tech are doing the same.

            I won't suddenly become black (I can't even get a decent suntan), and I'm unlikely to suddenly become a woman (but I guess, technically, it's possible), but we all get older (the alternative kinda sucks). Every single one of us will, one day, enjoy the special warm feeling that you get, when someone dismisses you with a flippant "OK Boomer," or whatever the millennial and GenX versions will be.

            That's what makes the infamous Silicon Valley (but Brooklyn is actually much worse) ageism so bad. A lot of folks are finding themselves being hoist by their own petards, as they are suddenly unable to get a job.

            One of the interesting things about AI, is that younger folks are now getting screwed. Not sure if that's good for older folks, though. The ones that are already there, and are doing a decent job of adopting AI, are probably going to be OK, but that's unlikely to be a majority.

      • lostlogin 2 hours ago
        You can draw or write on a physical card, or add a scratch etc.

        The Apple thing where you can switch cards is a weird interface too, even after you have done it a few times.

      • coldtea 6 hours ago
        >The same is true in a physical card wallet.

        If only a digital UI didn't have the same skeuomorpic limitations a physical card has ...oh wait!

        (And it's not true that the same issue is true in a physical card wallet. In a physical card, either you get a different design from the bank, or you can trivially write on it with a marker or add a sticker to differentiate it).

        >An 80 year old with early onset challenges can work this wallet, pick a card, and then hold the phone to the reader at a store.

        A, yes, the standard target group for iOS and the Wallet app in particular.

        I swear, the arguments people make...

      • patapong 6 hours ago
        So? Computers are the dream machine, we should strive to do better than physical reality, not mimic it.
      • Dries007 6 hours ago
        Except that personalized cards have been a thing since I've had a card in 2014...
      • croes 5 hours ago
        > The same is true in a physical card wallet.

        That’s why Apple has to copy the problem for the wallet?

      • jbverschoor 6 hours ago
        If you have multiple cards with the same bank you'll need to remember the last 4 digits. It's total bs
        • yandie 5 hours ago
          My Amex cards show up like the physical ones with the actual physical design elements like colors etc… so maybe it’s bank dependent?
          • bombcar 4 hours ago
            Some banks are better than others - Apple is amusingly bad at it if you have the Apple Card and your wife has you shared on hers. Two white rectangles, both alike in dignity, in fair Cupertino, where we lay our scene.
      • Invictus0 6 hours ago
        This is silly. "It matches a 70 year old's muscle memory" should not be the sole test of good design; if it were, then we would be plugging mouses and keyboards into our phones.
        • pseudalopex 1 hour ago
          Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize.[1]

          [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

        • bombcar 4 hours ago
          As we more and more mandate smartphones to live, we need to take accessibility into account. Watching "the olds" (which we are all fated to become someday unless something intervenes) fight technology is eye-opening; especially when you realize that you are starting to fight it.

          I never knew there was a virtual home button available in iOS; but apparently there is.

    • mvdwoord 6 hours ago
      First thing I noticed too, as I have multiple cards from the same bank. I also noticed they show you last digits of the ... CARD number, not the account number which would be tremendously more helpful. But I figured out you can put little icons on the cards. Which my bank did automatically for my business account. I added a little person icon for my personal account. Maybe bank specific though but definitely super dumb that you cannot label them yourself easily in the wallet app.
      • eNV25 5 hours ago
        That's ridiculous. The card number has nothing to do with the account number.
        • bombcar 4 hours ago
          Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. My debit card from my credit union is easy to map to the account as they share digits, but other debit cards from other institutions are completely unrelated.
          • ryandrake 4 hours ago
            This whole comment section looks to be turning into a "Falsehoods Programmers Believe About Credit Cards" blog post.
    • mikepurvis 6 hours ago
      I'm 39M and have ended up with a bunch of different credit cards; I get annoyed picking between them even without the additional complication of them being identical in appearance.

      For me it's my daily driver, my Costco branded card, my airline's amex card, my USD denominated card, and my work-issued card. There are also two ATM/debit cards in there which I'll occasionally choose at small merchants where I know the CC fees hit them harder.

      In most cases I just want the daily driver, but the airline card gets good rewards for dining so it does come out reasonably often as well. The USD card I can mostly ignore unless I'm traveling there and can temporarily set it as the default.

    • aingisni_del 6 hours ago
      Spot on re: App UI designed and engineered by 20y/o in SF. That is actually accurate, because that was (is?) the team that engineered it. I interviewed with them sometime ago when Apple Pay had just come out, and that entire Wallet/Passbook team seemed really toxic and ... very mediocre. Not surprising that this feature hasn't seen much improvement over time.
    • conradev 5 hours ago
      The design is skeuomorphic, modeled after a standard bifold wallet which gives your physical cards the same treatment.

      My current wallet doesn't give me any affordances: https://grifiti.com/products/grifiti-band-joes-3-25-x-1-25-i...

      • waterproof 5 hours ago
        your current wallet lets you add labels or stickers to your cards.

        classic Apple situation - look, this is super clean, intuitive software! but if you want a reasonable level of flexibility that you would expect elsewhere, you are SOL.

    • okrad 1 hour ago
      Switching your card when using Apply Pay as part of checkout on website was better when tapping the card icon allowed you to switch the card you are paying with but since iOS 26 that is for editing your billing address… if you want to change the card you have to select option below that with no icon titled “Other Cards & Pay Later Options”
      • e40 58 minutes ago
        Speaking of that, sometimes I touch the card I want and it doesn't select it. I go through this dance of touch, wait, touch, wait, repeat. Insane.
    • rootusrootus 6 hours ago
      This has been one of my peeves for years. Apple is capable of good design, and overall is well regarded for it, but there are a number of places where they have blinders on and absolutely refuse to fix extremely obvious missteps.
      • jbverschoor 6 hours ago
        You say good. I'd call it minimal. Minimal doesn't mean good.

        For example, I have bold text, larger text. On my mac I have all these contrast increasing settings enabled, simply because it's *not* good "design"

        It's good that it's minimal, but this minimalism is also why many things don't work (timemachine, icloud files/photos -> everything needs to be automatic, causing recurring downloads follewed cache eviction of those files). Etc etc etc

      • smt88 5 hours ago
        Apple is capable of beautiful and minimalistic designs, but their usability has been terrible since basically the iPod.

        Minimal is often an enemy of usable.

    • amluto 6 hours ago
      The flow for removing cards is also a fantastic exercise in slowness.
      • ncr100 6 hours ago
        How so?
        • amluto 5 hours ago
          Open the Wallet app (the double-tap-power view doesn’t work). Ask to delete one card at a time (which requires two taps which a short mandatory wait between them due to the animation). Tap again to confirm. Then wait an obnoxiously long time for the too-cute animation to complete. Then repeat for the next card, while wondering why there is no bulk remove operation of any sort.
          • avemg 5 hours ago
            Yep! Extremely annoying when traveling with my family of four!
    • spike021 2 hours ago
      I have multiple Chase cards but they do look different from each other physically and in the Wallet app. Isn't that just a bank issue of not making cards differentiate from each other?
    • timacles 6 hours ago
      When I first started using it I thought something was broken
      • ncr100 6 hours ago
        Which something? The identical-ness of your particular collection of cards, in the wallet?
        • OJFord 4 hours ago
          Well, I don't know what it looks like in Apple Wallet, because I use Google Wallet, but for the same reason I'm struggling to imagine the problem because there the cards are pretty large – maybe ⅔ real card size on my Pixel 10 – and in a carousel at the top. So you can see clearly which one the active one is, and just swipe between them if it's not the one you want.

          Easier than my physical wallet tbh, where they're behind each other, which I say begrudgingly because I've long held out, only starting to use the app a couple of weeks ago.

    • kjkjadksj 4 hours ago
      Nothing like having every flight you ever booked continuously stored forever. So easy to say “gee this flight was three days ago, maybe they don’t need the boarding pass anymore”. I just checked and I somehow have a covid test from 2022 stuck in there.
    • SOLAR_FIELDS 2 hours ago
      Another related annoyance, and I’m not sure if this is Apples fault or the developer’s fault, but things like plane tickets don’t expire out. You don’t need to auto remove them (but perhaps give me the option to opt in for that) but slightly greying expired ones out in the ui by default would go a long way towards helping with this
    • sitzkrieg 6 hours ago
      apple is a masterclass of terrible uis and hidden interactions
    • MagicMoonlight 3 hours ago
      You can order them in whatever order you want and set your main one as the default.
    • lobster-emoji 2 hours ago
      > shared account with your partner

      Do stupid things and the UI looks stupid. Shocker.

    • troupo 6 hours ago
      There's also no way to go to the wallet from the actual shortcut screen you most commonly use (the double-click power one)
      • dfunckt 1 hour ago
        Wait, what? Double-clicking will prompt for Face ID to open your default card for oayment, and from there you swipe down to see the stack — which I suppose is the screen you’re looking for.
    • yieldcrv 7 hours ago
      long hold to re-arrange your rearrange what your default card is - but to the bottom of the stack - is dumb
      • bombcar 4 hours ago
        Apple has my location at every moment of my life, from birth to natural death, and they can't switch the default card based on the store I'm in?

        Will wonders never cease.

    • jasonmp85 2 hours ago
      [dead]
    • aurareturn 6 hours ago
      Why doesn’t the bank design a slightly different top for different cards?
      • alistairSH 5 hours ago
        Because the cards aren't different cards.

        In my case, I have a personal card and a shared card from the same bank. The card type is the same, one just happens to have my spouse as a co-owner.

        Some banks do allow you to pick a card look/image. Most don't.

        But whatever the case, Apple really should allow tagging cards in the Wallet with a small icon/emoji/something. It doesn't need to be fancy - just enough to visually distinguish two otherwise visually similar cards.

        • jqpabc123 4 hours ago
          just enough to visually distinguish two otherwise visually similar cards.

          How about a simple, old fashioned text label for each card?

          • bombcar 4 hours ago
            For all I know there is something like that, but it'll be buried in settings, probably in accessibility, where nobody ever goes.

            Discoverability of options on the iPhone is fraught with danger and distrust, I learned about CarPlay widgets a few days ago and I've used it for years.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rUminiQjtM

            • jqpabc123 4 hours ago
              From my limited experience, Apple often denies the obvious for the sake of asthetics.

              For example, the simple utility of a [Backspace] key.

              • pseudalopex 1 hour ago
                Apple's keyboards have keys marked delete or a symbol where other keyboards have keys marked backspace, delete, or a symbol. Their utility was the same in my experience. What obvious difference did I not see?
                • bombcar 24 minutes ago
                  For a long time Apple had keyboards with only delete (delete the character at or in front of the cursor) and not backspace (delete the character before the cursor).
  • DrewADesign 6 hours ago
    While the author does mention the barriers to adoption, the premise— Apple was waiting for people to do something, but people weren’t doing it— subtly casts Apple as a passive entity in this scenario. The solution seems to be presented as Apple stepping in to make up for Developers’ inaction. If it’s been 14 years and there’s been very little adoption, this is clearly a UX problem. How many small venues or libraries have developers, let alone developers that do enough Apple-specific development work to have an Apple Developer account? In 14 years they couldn’t come up with an alternate solution? Maybe a less expensive administrative version of a developer account? It’s not users jobs to sell themselves on Apple’s products.
    • dec0dedab0de 6 hours ago
      What there really should be is a wallet equivalent of an ics file. It doesn't need to support everything, static images would be enough for most use cases. Advanced features could then require the current model.

      But that would require collaboration, and standards, which seem to have gone away as smart phones came in.

      • Qasaur 5 hours ago
        W3C Verifiable Credentials [1] does almost exactly what you suggested and was recently approved as a top-level W3C standard. Adoption has been sluggish outside of digital identity (with Android [2] and the EU digital identity wallet being notable exceptions), but I think it is because the family of standards is relatively new.

        [1] https://www.w3.org/TR/vc-overview/

        [2] https://developer.android.com/identity/digital-credentials

      • kenferry 5 hours ago
        This has existed since the first version, except it needs to be signed with a valid apple cert.

        A .pkpass file is a zipped directory that has a json file and some assets. There's no need to have a more limited version, a pass is already very limited.

        The issue is spoofing. Major event ticketers are unwilling to publish passes if there's nothing to stop someone else from publishing a pass that is indistinguishable from their's and thus is an avenue for fraud.

        The difference with events is that an ics file is not something someone's going to try to sell you or that you'd want to buy. But anyway, all Apple would have to do is stop checking the signing.

      • Wowfunhappy 4 hours ago
        This exists, .pkpass. You mostly don’t know about them because iOS tries to abstract away the file system, and because each one has to be code signed by a registered Apple Developer account.
      • azinman2 6 hours ago
        Apple has .pkpass
        • lode 6 hours ago
          The problem is that those are treated almost like an app, you need a $99/year developer certificate to publish them.

          Many third party ticketing solutions venues and events use do support this, but for instance if you want to sell tickets for a party and self-host, you need another external integration, or a developer account. Generating a PDF with a QR code, and publishing an .ics file is essentially free.

        • sheept 6 hours ago
          As alluded to in the ancestor comment, signing the .pkpass requires an Apple developer account.
    • PrairieFire 2 hours ago
      Excellent take. Had Apple made a dummy proof "Pass" portal for clubs, venues, etc to use to visually design and manage passes (and maybe even distribute?) when they launched this, I think it would have exploded, and the ecosystem lock in would have just been all that much deeper. But Apple doesn't really think or operate like that.

      Be really interesting to see how their approach evolves over the next couple years with sea changes happening all around them in this moment.

    • seeeeebt 6 hours ago
      Yes, what a bizarre framing! Surely it should read "It took 14 years for Apple to realise the problem was with them".
    • moritzwarhier 2 hours ago
      https://apps.apple.com/de/app/pass4wallet-store-cards/id1423...

      It seems more to me that they never provided proper third party integration to basically create a pkpass file encompassing

      - a QR code embedding arbitrary text up to, say, 128B or something, usually ASCII characters and usually a ticket ID and/or URL

      - 1-2 lines of supplementary "clear text"

      - a logo and/or fancy color gradient if needed

  • randusername 8 hours ago
    What a relief. My awful workaround was photos of all my membership barcodes labeled with a sharpie so that I can search "Gym" or "Library" or whatever to pull them up from OCR indexing.
    • basch 7 hours ago
      Pass2U Wallet works great, but like many apps, it really should just be a feature to begin with.

      You can also make passes for other people and send them / share them.

      Looks like someone else recommended a competitor Pass4 Wallet as well, may need to go compare.

      • mbirth 7 hours ago
        I'm using MakePass for ages now. Got it when it was still a single purchase and got grandfathered into their new license model. It allows you to use almost all features of the PassKit API. Very happy with it - let's see how the native feature compares.
      • carabiner 3 hours ago
        These apps never worked for me at my gym. The app successfully (it seemed) scanned my barcode on my gym card, but the gym's scanner never was able to pick it up from my phone's screen at max brightness, adjusting zoom etc.
      • reaperducer 6 hours ago
        Pass2U Wallet works great, but like many apps, it really should just be a feature to begin with.

        The weird thing is that this was a feature when Wallet was first introduced. You could create a URL that would add a pass to a wallet. There were web sites that helped out with it. I still have some of the passes I created this way a decade or more ago.

    • somehnguy 7 hours ago
      I've been using Pass4Wallet for the last few years to create Wallet entries for local clubs I'm apart of.

      It's actually better than native passes in some cases because you can add custom info to the entry, like a gate code. It's really flexible in terms of barcodes, QR codes, etc as well.

      Great app I'll probably continue using, I'm not confident Apple will allow the amount of customizability it allows.

      • croes 4 hours ago
        Pass4Wallet seems dead. The developer website

        https://girappe.com/ is also dead

        • somehnguy 2 hours ago
          Bummer. Welp, still works for now. I'm sure there are very similar apps as well.
      • janandonly 3 hours ago
        I am also a happy user. Came here to say the same thing.
    • janandonly 3 hours ago
    • dewey 7 hours ago
      There's many third party apps that can already create passes based on pictures. They are just adding that feature to the OS which is great of course but it has already been possible for a long time, except that there's one more step of downloading an app...but should still be quicker than searching your library every time.
    • dweekly 7 hours ago
      I've got a Photos album called Keys.
      • ncr100 6 hours ago
        Photos on Google has a Document image recognition category too. <3
    • jbverschoor 6 hours ago
      Just get https://supercardsapp.com/ and be done with it. It's most likely way better than the new Apple Wallet
    • u_fucking_dork 7 hours ago
      I usually just put things like that in an album
    • SoftTalker 7 hours ago
      Why is that awful? Sounds simple to me.
      • nlawalker 7 hours ago
        It's not awful on its own, but the alternative could be double-tapping the power button and having them immediately available on screen in a nice scroll UX along with everything else you consider to be in your "wallet".

        As someone who does roughly the same thing, the language used to describe the new capabilities isn't encouraging to me; I don't want to "add a pass", I want to "add a photo" and bypass all of this other complexity entirely.

  • noio 5 hours ago
    15 years ago, a friend of mine built an app to do this — "Pass Creator" — then Apple yanked the functionality.

    He paid me to create the icon for it, which was my first paid graphic design job: https://www.noio.nl/2012/10/pass-creator-app-icon/

    Thanks Paul.. good times!

    • hbn 1 hour ago
      You should know, however you're laying out the header on your website, in Safari it renders your face comically stretched and giant. Both on desktop and iPhone.
    • Dependance 5 hours ago
      Went through your site, and amazed to see you worked on Kingdom ? Loved that game a ton.
    • AlOwain 5 hours ago
      If not for anything, the icon looks good.

      Although it is not out yet, Garbage Country's art direction looks good :) wishlisted.

  • Liquid_Fire 7 hours ago
    > A few places where we still help, even after iOS 27 ships:

    > Google Wallet. Create a Pass is iPhone-only. Roughly half of the wallet-using world is on Android, and our generator builds Google Wallet passes from the same form.

    What does this actually mean? Google Wallet has had a button to add your own passes for many years. How is the feature described here different?

  • lxgr 7 hours ago
    Finally!

    An option to override automatic (un)archival of passes is also desperately needed. Some passes just don’t expire based on time, and too many pass creators are too incompetent to put the correct time in even if they do.

    Airlines in particular are prone to things like using local time in a field expecting UTC, which has made boarding passes auto-archive hours before leaving for the airport for me…

    • zimpenfish 7 hours ago
      > An option to override automatic (un)archival of passes is also desperately needed.

      PREACH. If you buy an open return (any time within 30 days of outward), Avanti set the expiry on both wallet passes to be the outward day. Which means your "valid for 30 days" ticket disappears almost immediately. Absolute shambles.

      • gib444 4 hours ago
        Probably intentional. Train companies do loads of shenanigans with tickets and pricing
    • reaperducer 6 hours ago
      Wallet → … → Expired → Edit → Select All → Eyeball (!) → Unhide.

      Doesn't help with the "automatic" part, but I try to remember to do this every few months.

      • lxgr 5 hours ago
        This is for unhiding, but do you know of a way to do the reverse?
  • dschep 7 hours ago
    This is just parity with google wallet, right? AFAICT my library card in google wallet is just a generic card/pass type.
    • johanyc 2 hours ago
      > A few places where we still help, even after iOS 27 ships:

      > Google Wallet. Create a Pass is iPhone-only. Roughly half of the wallet-using world is on Android, and our generator builds Google Wallet passes from the same form.

      From the blog

    • creaturemachine 7 hours ago
      Google wallet did this from day one.
      • croes 4 hours ago
        That’s why Google can’t announce a new feature.
  • alt227 6 hours ago
    Good to see Apple catching up with Google finally.

    Google wallet has had the abillity to scan tickets and create custom passes for years.

    This article frames it like Apple are coming to save the day from lazy developers, but in reality its Apple who have been sleeping on this while other competing services have offered it for some time now.

  • mosburger 7 hours ago
    IMO one of the cool things about Wallet is the notification that appears on the homescreen when you're in proximity of the venue or time of the event and automatically displays the pass when tapped. I wonder if "create your own" will be able to do that (I'm not sure how it would)?
    • haritha-j 6 hours ago
      That one's real fun if you happen to be near the train station a lot, and have an anytime return ticket.
      • IneffablePigeon 5 hours ago
        Yeah I had to turn that off when I lived near the train station.
    • basch 7 hours ago
      I use Pass2U Wallet and set a location, if I end up at near Children's Museum or Community Center, my ID is ready.
    • ceejayoz 7 hours ago
      Just enter the location and time in question as part of creating the pass?
      • maratc 7 hours ago
        For one, the article doesn't suggest that this will indeed be allowed as a part of that process. OTOH: it's easy for a flight ticket pass (which has time and airport location) but not for a gym membership pass (time can be anything and the gym can have several locations.)
        • ceejayoz 7 hours ago
          Location-based functionality like this is already widespread in iOS; I'd be surprised if it wasn't supported. Reminders and calendar events (and PassKit!) already have it, for example.
    • MengerSponge 6 hours ago
      I'm a fan of Wallet Creator (https://apps.apple.com/us/app/wallet-creator/id1486573384)

      Zero dollars, lets you geofence passes when you create them.

  • thewavelength 8 hours ago
    I need this without knowing before that I needed this. Makes me question why this wasn’t implemented years ago. Anyway, great.
  • divbzero 2 hours ago
    This is wonderful, I’ve been waiting for this to add a library card to Apple Wallet. I hope it will support linear barcodes too.
  • toenail 8 hours ago
    Makes you wonder why this wasn't always possible.. I go to lots of events that have qr codes on their tickets, this will be useful
    • gruez 8 hours ago
      For whatever reason apple required passes to be digitally signed with an apple developer certificate. On the other hand a screenshot/pdf is "good enough" that they didn't bother fixing it.
      • alt227 6 hours ago
        > For whatever reason apple required passes to be digitally signed with an apple developer certificate

        Apple uses every opportunity to try to increase developer and user lock in. This was no exception. I see this new move as begrudgingly opening the doors to all as not enough people were signing with Apple Developer Certificates.

        • jonathanstrange 5 hours ago
          Unfortunately, they're not even good at it. Setting up a custom CI chain today as a brand-new member of the Apple Developer program, I found out that they have at least 9 different certificates to generate with no explanation which one you need on the page, and after I had generated one, downloaded it, and imported it into the keychain, the certificate was invalid. I additionally had to go to some cryptic looking page[1] and manually download the "right" in intermediary certificates.

          [1] https://www.apple.com/certificateauthority/

    • vachina 8 hours ago
      What is the difference between this and taking a picture/screenshot of the QR code?
      • rootusrootus 6 hours ago
        QR code definitely in focus, lighting good, the screen will brighten automatically for maximum contrast, and it will be in an easy-to-find location (especially handy if location services knows you are near where you need the pass and suggests it automatically).
      • alt227 6 hours ago
        Not much, it just allows you to save it in your wallet app instead of your photo app.
    • loloquwowndueo 8 hours ago
      Does just taking a pic of the QR code not work just as well?
      • bspammer 7 hours ago
        You can double tap the lock button to open your wallet with all your passes. Also it automatically raises the brightness for QR passes to make it easier for readers.

        You could do the same thing with shortcuts I guess but using the first class feature is nice.

      • johanyc 2 hours ago
        Apple wallet proactively shows your event pass when it's time. Much better than trying to find the photo from your camera roll
      • jen20 8 hours ago
        It does, but then it's buried in your photos instead of on the home screen.
        • vachina 8 hours ago
          Most tickets don’t just come with a QR, it has other information like seating/metadata not in the QR that can only be captured in a photo.
          • loloquwowndueo 7 hours ago
            Funny, when I take a picture of a ticket I can still see all those things.
          • berkeleyjunk 7 hours ago
            Interesting. Do you have examples of such data or any pointers. I always take screenshots of the wallet pass and they seem to work fine.
  • janandonly 3 hours ago
    I am surprised nobody mentioned pass3wallet yet?

    https://apps.apple.com/nl/app/pass4wallet-store-cards/id1423...

  • ivanjermakov 8 hours ago
    Been using Wallet Creator for that matter. Free and no ads.

    https://apps.apple.com/app/id1486573384

  • petetnt 7 hours ago
    The Wallet Pass[0] and PassKit[1] documentations are some of the sparsest and cryptic documentations around filled with absolutely archaic flows that _need_ to be supported for proper integration. If this solves the need of ever having to deal with those features ever again.

    [0]: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/walletpasses [1]: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/passkit

  • ghaff 4 hours ago
    And literally (at least in the correct meaning of the term) I just spent 30 minutes trying to get a theater ticket into my wallet from my computer and was able to do so only after I switched to my phone. I'll make a printout anyway which would probably work if push came to shove in spite of what the email says. But I just don't love that you're fsckd if something happens to your phone. As I said in another message. I'll probably buy another phone sooner than I would have otherwise just so I have a reasonably contemporary packup.
  • testfoobar 3 hours ago
    Definitely need this - I have a grocery store app with an embedded QR code linked to my account for discounts at point of sale. Opening the app is slow - so I've screen shotted the QR code. I have to pull my pinned photos at checkout to scan the code. This is also slow - but less slow than opening the app.

    Looking forward to adding it to Apple wallet.

    As an aside, does the Jenny number still work at most stores?

  • odysseus 3 hours ago
    Apple needs to go a step beyond this and optionally automatically pick the best card to use based on your location to get the max cash back.
  • vrc 7 hours ago
    Does Wallet allow apps to interact with the meta-data of cards, and/or update them in any way? This could be interesting for insurance cards, in particular. Upload & verify status periodically with a prompt to update, for example.
  • latexr 6 hours ago
    Finally!¹ My biggest use case is not actually creating passes for services which don’t provide them, but being able to create passes without having to install a freaking app.

    FlixBus (I might be misremembering) is the only service I ever found which lets you pay with Apple Pay and add a pass to Wallet all from Safari. For airlines and other bus/train services I always have to install the app to do both. Maybe this will allow me to buy tickets on the web then make my own pass.

    ¹ Assuming I even update to iOS 27, though.

    • vtbassmatt 6 hours ago
      It feels wrong to say something nice about Ticketmaster, but you don't need their app to add concert tickets to Apple Wallet (at least at all the venues where I live). I strictly use their website because I don't trust them.

      I've never tried to pay with Apple Pay on ticketmaster.com, but I assume I could do that as well.

  • seldomcomment 5 hours ago
    This reminds me of WalletWallet [1], posted few months ago on HN [2].

    [1] https://walletwallet.alen.ro/

    [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46345745

    • jdhwosnhw 4 hours ago
      That’s because, as the article explicitly states, this post is by walletwallet’s developer
    • avs733 4 hours ago
      Its a blog post from the WalletWallet team about the upcoming changes that have only been reported by Bloomberg news
  • resters 7 hours ago
    I thought this meant Apple was creating the ability for anyone to issue/sell passes/tickets through its wallet infrastructure. That would be much more significant.
  • intrasight 8 hours ago
    Could someone explain what a "pass" is in this context?
    • Silamoth 7 hours ago
      Basically anywhere you need to scan a QR code to get in, you can have a pass in Apple Wallet. I’ve never stored payment info in Apple Wallet. But every time I take a flight, I store my boarding pass in Apple Wallet. It’s than printing a physical boarding pass, it automatically updates metadata (e.g., flight times, gates), and it’s nicer than just a picture.

      Previously, you could only add passes if the company supported it. So most airlines have Apple Wallet passes, but most gyms don’t. This update will allow you to create your own passes. Basically just storing the QR codes (and maybe some metadata?) in one easy-to-use place on your phone. I can imagine this being convenient for daily use so you don’t have to track a gym tag with a QR code and a library tag with a QR code, etc. Also nice for tickets to events.

      • ghaff 6 hours ago
        I basically only fly one airline. But I generally try to store train passes, airline tickets, show tickets, etc. in the wallet when I can especially if I can't easily print a backup print copy--which is often an effort if I'm traveling.
    • biophysboy 7 hours ago
      Entry ticket, basically. I went to Olympic Natl park recently and had the pass added to my Apple Wallet.
      • mystifyingpoi 6 hours ago
        What's the difference here between adding the "custom pass" and just taking a photo of QR code? Just the fact that it is stored in Wallet instead of photos folder?
        • piperswe 6 hours ago
          It's stored in Wallet so you can access it through the Wallet shortcut (double-press power button), when you open it the screen automatically brightens, and it's a perfectly clear QR code rather than a picture so it'll be easier to scan.
  • isodev 5 hours ago
    Oh great, Apple is sherlocking yet another category of apps (and not to mention Apple always had a convoluted and gatekeepy approach to letting passes show up in the Wallet app)

    I guess there is no appetite for “antitrust” in the US right now.

    • jjice 1 hour ago
      There are many anittrust arguments that can be taken up against Apple, but I don't see how this is one of them. They're adding a feature to add a QR/bar code to the wallet app. It's a very minor feature.

      As for sherlocking, this is such a minor use case that I'm not sure why anyone (minus maybe the initial app developers) would be upset. As a user, I need one less app to do something (that I should've been able to do for years). It's not like they're stripping an ability away from developers to hide it behind their own gates.

  • ghaff 7 hours ago
    I'll have to see the workflow but I find it incredibly annoying to have tickets that you may or may not be able to put in the Wallet and maybe we'll send them to you a week before the event when you're traveling. Understand about airline checkins but keeping mental track of things like theater tickets or timed museum entries is really annoyinmg.
  • DecoPerson 7 hours ago
    Been using Pass2U for this for years.

    Surely this was considered earlier within Apple. I wonder what changed that they decided to do this now.

  • maratc 7 hours ago
    Adding your own passes was possible before (I used websites to create passes on the phone; apps existed too) however that's been a hurdle. I wonder what the security implications of this would be. Could people snatch a QR code on my paper ticket to go to a Taylor Swift's concert instead of me?
    • mystifyingpoi 6 hours ago
      > Could people snatch a QR code on my paper ticket

      That's a feature, not a bug. It means you can sell the ticket if you can't make it. Thankfully (/s) we have Ticketmaster with rolling codes now, so, no reselling.

      • maratc 6 hours ago
        > It means you can sell the ticket

        This also means I can do it twice if I choose so.

    • jjice 7 hours ago
      I can't speak for all things, but I found that venues will often use like a rotating QR code or rely on NFC. I'm sure if this is something like a ticket for a concert, you'll just rely on the existing pass support from whatever service you're using because it'll require something more complex.

      The way I'm interpreting this is that it's a way to abstract stagnant QR or barcode passes for smaller businesses and libraries. We'll see at the WWDC though.

    • NetMageSCW 6 hours ago
      How do they get your paper ticket?
      • maratc 5 hours ago
        By using their smart glasses or 20x zoom camera to take a picture of it when I take it out of the pocket at a grocery line?

        Thieves could snatch my paper ticket from my hands before, but at least in that situation I would be aware of it.

  • dec0dedab0de 6 hours ago
    This rules, I hope they don't botch it. All I need is the ability to save a custom image, maybe with an optional expiration date. Then I could add all my insurance cards and concert tickets that are not already compatible.
  • nottorp 7 hours ago
    I paid 0.99 for some 3rd party app to do that for me years ago. It still seems to work.

    And I'll still need it because I doubt I'll be switching to 26 or 27 any time soon.

    Edit: Pass2UWallet is the name of the app I'm using if anyone cares. I'm not getting a commission for that yadda yadda doo.

    • darkwater 7 hours ago
      TFA is from a developer that created an app to create passes in iOS (and Android)
      • nottorp 5 hours ago
        Not the only app though :)
  • halflife 5 hours ago
    Will this work only with scannable codes? Or with NFC as well?
  • baby-yoda 6 hours ago
    Fingers crossed they'll finally add Code 39 barcode generation.
  • jstanley 7 hours ago
    What is a "pass"?
    • brad0 7 hours ago
      A generic name for a collection of things used to gain access to something.

      That’s not really helping explain it, so here’s some examples:

      Airplane tickets, library membership barcode, sports tickets, loyalty cards for your local coffee shop, conference tickets, etc.

      Essentially anything with a barcode first and foremost. The website that this blog is about allows you to generate your own passes.

      • sebtron 7 hours ago
        Can I use this feature to generate an airplane ticket? :P

        I think "create" is the confusing part. It should be "digitize" or something. Either this, or "pass" means something else here.

      • jstanley 6 hours ago
        I literally don't get what this new feature is adding or why it would be part of an iPhone wallet.

        If you want to issue tickets is your wallet the most obvious place to do it from? Why would an airline issue tickets from an iPhone?

        Or, if this is just for storing tickets issued by other people, why does it benefit from going into the wallet app?

        • toast0 6 hours ago
          This is for storing tickets issued by other people.

          It's handy because it provides an organizational tool. Airplane tickets are in wallet, concert tickets are in wallet. Maybe ferry passes and store discount ids should be too.

          And also because you get better results from scanning a regenerated 2d/3d barcode after decoding the original vs scanning a photo of the original.

  • cormorant 7 hours ago
    Who's to say the business that issued the ticket will accept your homemade imitation? with "adjustable styles, images, colors, and text fields"?
    • circuit10 4 hours ago
      It works fine if scanned by a machine though (ticket gate, self checkout etc.)

      I've used a third party app for this for a UK weekly pass train ticket you could only buy physically, but if you buy it on a train rather than at a station they can't print you a ticket with a magnetic strip and they have to give you one with a barcode (technically an Aztec code), which you can then scan onto your phone and use at the gate. But I kept the original ticket with me too and would use that if a person asked to inspect it

    • 46493168 7 hours ago
      Absolutely no one whose job it is to scan barcodes gets paid enough to give a single fuck about how that barcode was created
      • knollimar 7 hours ago
        There's some places like railroads that I've seen care about this so that people don't share tickets (like monthly pass types)
    • ceejayoz 7 hours ago
      I use Pass4Wallet for several loyalty/gym memberships.

      In my experience, if the code scans, the code scans.

  • aczerepinski 6 hours ago
    As long as we're innovating, how about adding tap to pay to the physical apple cards?
    • WorldMaker 4 hours ago
      If you have an Apple Card they already assume that you have an iPhone to tap to pay with. Why pay for hardware in the card that duplicates hardware your phone already does better?

      (Better as in Phone tap to pay has an extra layer of security that card tap to pay does not. But also yes, cynically, better for Apple because Apple gets a small cut in Phone tap to pay to help pay for that extra layer of security.)

      Using an Apple Watch for tap to pay is really nice, for what it is worth.

      • aczerepinski 2 hours ago
        Handing your phone to the guy working the gate at the parking lot is awkward. Will he need to hand it back and forth for face ID? Handing a credit card like everyone else does is better, but why is this heavy titanium card one of the few that doesn’t work on his tap reader as expected?

        I wear a garmin when I work out but otherwise want a mechanical watch with no tracking or distractions.

  • bilsbie 7 hours ago
    Pretty useful. I wish more places would allow this. My zoo membership makes you install their app just to enter.
  • flymasterv 8 hours ago
    I’ve always felt like Wallet is mostly a solution in search of a problem, but maybe more adoption will help?

    I don’t really believe that places that require membership cards are going to let users start creating their own, though.

    • dewey 7 hours ago
      I think Wallet might be the most used feature for many on the iPhone, especially if they pay with their phone. What makes you think it's looking for a problem to solve?

      I think Wallet is great and the adoption in certain areas like boarding passes is almost 100% and it beats digging through email to find some pdf and zooming in on some QR code when you have to present it (Hoping that your screen doesn't rotate in the worst possible moment). Also many big cities support it for public transport and most banking apps allow you to use your credit cards there for Apple Pay.

      • flymasterv 7 hours ago
        I guess I consider Apple Pay via Wallet, which I use, to be different from Gym Membership via Wallet, which just doesn't seem worth the effort? Maybe I'm unusual.
        • WorldMaker 4 hours ago
          Part of it is why carry a physical wallet anymore when your phone (and Apple Watch) can store all of your cards? There are even US States now that let you store your Driver's License in Apple Wallet. (And a version of Digital ID based on a US Passport that works for TSA and sometimes but not always US Customs.) There's an increased ability to leave the house just carrying your phone and not a physical wallet.

          In a gym context specifically: a lot of gym wear doesn't have pockets. Being able to leave your phone and physical wallet at home or in a locker and use your watch (which you also use for workout tracking) for every membership card swipe, vending machine electrolyte/protein drink purchase, and gym class ticket can be very convenient.

        • rootusrootus 6 hours ago
          I don't like carrying physical cards around for every little thing. To me carrying a gym card around is way more effort than storing a QR code on the phone.
      • SJMG 7 hours ago
        Agreed. I use it basically every day. It's almost disquieting how quickly Apple inserted itself into payments, but it's frankly safer than a credit card and the NFC(?) works much better.
        • knollimar 6 hours ago
          In NYC they had issues with the temporary card numbers they give. Apple got special privileges compared to Google wallet, where they were treating the tapping double charging being rejected as erroneous and banning the cards.

          I had to switch to a physical card and the MTA advice was to get an iphone

    • kdheiwns 7 hours ago
      Being able to have train/bus passes on my phone whenever I go to another country is nice. Some places are a pain in the ass because even different cities have their own systems and they're all given names like IBCJ or JGCUVFGIB as if anyone is supposed to figure how to look them up. And oftentimes physical passes can only be bought from machines in select areas. And when going to undeveloped areas (particularly Europe), the few machines that do exist are broken and look like they were abandoned years ago, leaving the only option to track down where some rail staff are and trying to find someone who won't just wave you away without even looking at your face and hoping they'll help get you a pass instead of needing to get annoying one time tickets. Then sometimes places just tell you to install an app to buy tickets. That app requires a local phone number and address to verify.

      Apple wallet lets me install passes and charge them up without even being in the country that I'll be visiting yet. It makes things massively more tedious. I wish more European countries supported it, because as much as Europeans have some weird pride in their public transportation, they're more complicated and backwards than even the poorest Asian nations. Being able to add any pass to Apple wallet would be a huge step in resolving that.

      • ghaff 6 hours ago
        It's not seamless but a lot of people seem to be like "do your research" and install 8 different apps if you're traveling to a bunch of cities. And, yeah, anything that decreases the friction is good. I maybe know how to deal with transit without doing real research in a handful of cities but anything that decreases friction seems good.
    • CamJN 7 hours ago
      The kid behind the counter at most places is neither paid nor trained enough to identify if the digital card in my phone’s wallet comes from their app or if I made it myself.

      As long as it scans they don’t care.

    • SoKamil 7 hours ago
      Having boarding passes in Wallet which also update real time is so nice. Same thing with other tickets for events.
      • brookst 7 hours ago
        Yeah having gate, seat, time updating automatically is such a huge improvement for travel.
    • piva00 7 hours ago
      Wallet is already plenty useful to me.

      Ticketing is a great use-case for it, I have flight tickets, concerts/events tickets, airport bus tickets, if it keeps expanding to integrate with even more tickets (my local public transportation system, the express train to the airport, more venues) it will only become more useful.

      Edit: also, all of my cards, I haven't used a physical card at POS terminals in years, they only get used on ATMs.

      • ghaff 7 hours ago
        And, meanwhile, I want to have a physical card/printout I can use if something goes wrong with phone/watch.

        Don't get me wrong, I do appreciate the apps on my electronic devices but I also carry paper copies whenever I can because electronic stuff breaks in various ways.

        • piva00 6 hours ago
          Me too, I wouldn't only rely on electronic devices for something as essential as paying. I still carry my cards in my physical wallet with me, it's just that I haven't had the need to use them in a very long time.
    • djyde 7 hours ago
      I use Wallet purely to satisfy my collecting habit. I like to add movie tickets to it after purchasing them in the movie app, so I can look back at all the movies I've watched from many years ago until now.
    • threetonesun 7 hours ago
      I still see people amazed when I pay for stuff with my Apple Watch. The only other place I know that reliably uses the Apple Watch with wallet outside of payment is Disney World, but the experience there was ok at best as I was managing my entire family and I'm pretty sure they would rather sell you multiple magic bands, but seeing as how phones will never get smaller I'd love more places to support tapping my watch on things.
    • ghaff 6 hours ago
      I don't know about most used app. But it seems a useful backup for specific vendor/site-specific apps when traveling for a variety of reasons. It gives me a ticket for a specific purpose on my phone when I may not be in a position to print one out--which many people don't do these days for misguided reasons anyway.
    • biophysboy 7 hours ago
      I don't really think of it as an app; I think of it as the "double-tap side button to do tap to pay or present my ticket" iPhone feature
  • skiing_crawling 7 hours ago
    they do the most obvious, sorely missing feature after over a decade of stubbornness and it goes straight to the top of HN
  • nunez 6 hours ago
    Damn; PassWallet just got Sherlocked.
    • alt227 6 hours ago
      Google wallet has done this from day one. If Apple had done the same these 3rd party apps would have never existed in the first place.
  • chuckadams 7 hours ago
    It's kind of nice that I can put my Safeway and Soopercard in there now, but that still means having to scan the barcode, and frankly it's less cumbersome to just hand my physical card to the cashier. The only store that seems to have figured out how to automatically add their card to NFC payments is Maverik gas stations.
    • rootusrootus 6 hours ago
      > my physical card

      Sure, if you carry the physical card. But that's exactly what I get from having it on the phone -- I don't want an inch-thick wallet from times of old, I want to carry as little as possible. I have a tiny magsafe wallet with ID, one physical credit card, and an airtag card. Everything else lives on the phone.

    • NetMageSCW 6 hours ago
      Walgreens let’s you add your loyalty card and use both it and payment from Wallet.
  • MagicMoonlight 2 hours ago
    Awesome, finally. I don’t know why they wait so long to add things.
  • dawnerd 4 hours ago
    And yet there's still credit cards that don't support Apple Wallet. Looking at you Citi Best Buy card...
  • jonathanstrange 7 hours ago
    What is a "pass" in that context?
    • sebtron 7 hours ago
      I think it means a digital copy of a ticket or similar card.
  • sen 7 hours ago
    Now we just need the ability to add custom NFC/RFID passes in the Wallet app for workplace doors/lifts/etc.
    • thecatapps 4 hours ago
      God I hope that's included. As silly as it sounds, having NFC inside passes require a custom entitlement/approval from Apple was my breaking point for ditching iOS development altogether. The form for requesting said entitlement was broken (at the time, at least), and I didn't understand why .pkpass files had to be signed at all - I still don't.
    • pjc50 6 hours ago
      "Clone this pass" as a service!
    • rootusrootus 6 hours ago
      I would love to see that. No more forgetting the office RFID card
    • alehlopeh 7 hours ago
      Accessgrid is a startup in this space.
  • konschubert 8 hours ago
    I hope that we will soon have ways to change the tone of AI writing, I hate that all news articles now have that same AI voice.
  • rafram 7 hours ago
    This is AI slop blogspam. Original article: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-05-04/ios-27-fe...
  • mghackerlady 7 hours ago
    Finally, there's a website out there to do it but holy shit was it a pain
  • mihaaly 6 hours ago
    I think I'd be satisfied enough allowing me not to add credit card to the Apple Wallet, putting away the push from the prime place some way. Or not to have a huge promotion being in the first place when opening it with a 'Get' buttopn being the only one on it.

    Today's app makers do not respect users. See them as big milk-cow fan-base, that's it! So they can piss off, I don't care about them either!

  • emsign 3 hours ago
    And thus the trap closes shut. Big money wants to control all your identities. This is basically it, it's the final stage. now all it takes is a government that stops obeying fundamental rights... oh wait!
  • stavros 7 hours ago
    I feel like a broken record to be saying this again, but seeing Claude's writing everywhere grates. Maybe I'm preaching to the choir, but can we at least post articles that weren't so obviously Claude?
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