Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone

(theregister.com)

47 points | by _____k 3 hours ago

11 comments

  • janvlug 29 minutes ago
    I use a Librem5 Linux phone. With the default PureOS operating system.

    Enjoy your freedom, break free from Google and Apple.

    Have a full Linux computer in your pocket that you can also use for calling.

    See also the discussion on this post: https://mastodon.social/@janvlug/116504044251287290

  • chappi42 25 minutes ago
    This article fails to mention GrapheneOS.

    The article starts with Murena, Punkt, Volla which are all based on Android. If you do this, then imho you must mention GrapheneOS, the by far better option (updates, privacy, security, organisation).

    Google Pixel with GrapheneOS is the best non-Google phone... ;-)

  • sigmoid10 59 minutes ago
    I really want to try one of these one day: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/promoted/

    But I haven't dared yet because I kind of expect it will not be able to replace my current phone.

    • realusername 20 minutes ago
      Ubuntu Touch was amazing, way ahead of Android and iOS when it came out, the touch gestures were so much better than what was available.

      But then it's just maintained by very few people nowadays and half abandoned.

      You can buy a used Pixel 3a if you want to toy around with it, they cost nothing.

  • pavlov 48 minutes ago
    Jolla still exists:

    https://jolla.com/

    They develop Sailfish, a non-Google Linux-based mobile OS that can apparently run Android apps decently in a sandbox.

    • ttkari 0 minutes ago
      They are also less than 2 months away from the first deliveries of the Jolla Phone 2026, a new SailfishOS device they have designed and built from scratch. Over the past years the official Sailfish experience has largely been relying on Sony Open Device program - a co-operation which hasn't always been very smooth for the customers.

      I have been daily driving SFOS on a Sony Xperia 10 III for the past 3 years and it works well for me. I think the 10 III is the current "peak Sailfish" at least among the officially supported devices but this should change once the new phones roll out in early July. For new orders of the 2026 phone they are currently aiming for delivery in September in the supported markets (EU, UK, Norway and Switzerland).

  • amelius 56 minutes ago
    Is anyone successfully running Android inside a container in Linux, for their daily apps?
  • ElFitz 12 minutes ago
    I looked at Punkt.

    They keep saying "If you don’t pay for the product, you are the product". Okay, all fine and well.

    But what will my phone still actually be able to do if / when I stop my subscription? Not a single clear answer besides "[…] gradual feature deactivation, and ultimately reverting to a device running AOSP".

    Doesn’t really inspire confidence.

  • anta40 55 minutes ago
    So which one has the biggest chance to be Android/iOS alternative?

    Many many years ago, smarphone users had these choices:

    Symbian, BlackBerry, Windows Mobile, PalmOS... what else?

    • ajdude 19 minutes ago
      Windows phone still had the best ux of any smartphone, I just wish the ecosystem was there. To this day nothing even comes close to smart tiles.
  • smeggysmeg 47 minutes ago
    I moved to a Fairphone 6 with /e/OS a few weeks ago. I can do everything I need to, everything I want to, and with more control over my digital footprint and what data is being collected about me. I've completely moved off Google services.

    The OS experience is pretty impressive for not being made by an evil megacorp. The hardware is fairly midrange, but midrange today is last year's top end, and unless you're some expert photographer or needing phone VR or whatever, it's a great, normal smartphone experience.

    I'm donating to the open source devs who make my apps, and they respond when I ask for useful features instead of always enshittifying it. For the corpo apps, it pulls from Google Play.

  • trvz 24 minutes ago
    > But can I run my apps?

    > Well, probably, yes.

    Even with "probably" as a qualifier, this is disingenuous.

    Not even Android has caught up to the highest tier of apps available on iOS.

  • DeathArrow 1 hour ago
    I usually buy either Xiaomi or Oppo phones and I am pretty happy.
    • vovavili 1 hour ago
      Still a "Google phone" as per the definition of this article. They're looking for Linux-based non-Android phones.
    • retired 1 hour ago
      Are Xiaomi phones still legal in the EU with their proprietary chargers? All phones need to have USB-C and USB-PD now.
      • dobladov 53 minutes ago
        Which proprietary charger? I always had Xiaomi phones and they always use USB ports.
        • retired 50 minutes ago
          Xiaomi uses a proprietary charging protocol, I believe it is called Hypercharge. It also requires a proprietary cable with an extra pin/chip.
  • bekon 23 minutes ago
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