Surface Laptop Ultra: Made for World Makers

(blogs.windows.com)

26 points | by berlianta 3 hours ago

18 comments

  • shlewis 5 minutes ago
    I will never buy a Surface device ever again. I've been using an SL4 for the last four years with Linux on it, thanks to the surface-linux kernel.

    It's awful. It feels like it's actively refusing to work properly with Linux.

    Fair - it's not for Linux, and clearly that is expected with a Microsoft device.

    I've recently had to call their support for missing rubber feet. I figured I could get the replacement mailed. An AI answered, did not understand what I was saying at all, hung up the call. I called again; it told me to check the website and hung up, not even giving me a chance to say anything.

    Okay. Guess I'll never buy anything from you ever. Ordered them off of Aliexpress and moved on.

  • LiamPowell 21 minutes ago
    What's this nonsensical video on the product page that allegedly shows an "all new thermal system"? https://videos.ctfassets.net/jy9s7k22hbg4/44R1LH71xb8uO4c9dD...
  • speedgoose 0 minutes ago
    I guess that if I have to ask for the price, it’s not for me.
  • ku1ik 1 hour ago
    „Built on Windows”. That’s like anti-ad these days. Maybe, maybe worth looking at if you can run other OS than Windows on it, but that will probably take some time.
    • EagnaIonat 53 minutes ago
      The emphasis on the fans kicking off also had a bit of a turn-off.
    • sandworm101 26 minutes ago
      Ya, i dont know of anyone wanting to run very large AI models in a windows environment. Or, frankly, on a laptop. Why not just VPN into a dedicated server?
      • satvikpendem 9 minutes ago
        I do. I can take my laptop anywhere I want, for example to a coffee shop and run a coding model while eating a croissant without worrying about an internet connection, as the term local model implies.
      • whywhywhywhy 11 minutes ago
        How much does a dedicated server with 128GB vram cost a month.
  • poisonborz 8 minutes ago
    Wondering about Linux support. Would it take Asahi-level community commitment? For Windows, ~no one will switch from their macs for some (seemingly) single-year-generational gains. It would need some distinctive feature, not only performance. For me, the 2in1/tablet aspect was that, which they drop now.
  • steviee 21 minutes ago
    This might actually be cool hardware! I'm just wondering why anyone would waste all the overhead for the Windows OS. There's probably only 48 Gigs of unified memory left when your log-on completes...
  • throwaway_7678 41 minutes ago
    "The world is full of makers. Only a few make the world."

    What does this mean ? How can you make the world ?

    • KeplerBoy 35 minutes ago
      It means nothing. The LLM thought it was edgy.
      • LiamPowell 32 minutes ago
        LLMs are not yet capable of generating the level of marketing wankery seen here.
        • dgellow 9 minutes ago
          What do you mean, that's pretty much everything LLMs generate

          "Nothing wasted. Everything intentional."

          That's the most ChatGPT line ever, where everything has to be a cringy punchline

          "A machine like this should not sit still. It should be pushed. Taken to the edge. Used to make real what others call impossible."

          I really hope no human would write something like that

    • fragmede 36 minutes ago
      Be a creator instead of a consumer.
      • throwaway_7678 35 minutes ago
        But it implies it's not for ordinary makers. Only for the "world makers".

        "It belongs in the hands of world makers."

        • frangonf 9 minutes ago
          They are targeting the kind of makers that use Excel and Teams more than make.
        • lupajz 21 minutes ago
          $$$
  • dgellow 11 minutes ago
    That copy reeks of AI generated text... for a premium, luxury laptop. What a shame.
  • neals 38 minutes ago
    I've had about 4 generations of surface devices. Never again. The frustration of that SP4 where every bodies screen would jitter and they would just stoiclly send me a replacement with the same problem. Until warranty expired.

    Or every model after that just slowed down to a crawl after a year. Or the keyboard connection not working reliably.

    No thank you very much.

  • bob1029 29 minutes ago
    These machines are total garbage in my experience.

    > And with all-day battery life[ii]

    If they managed to get anywhere near Apple, they'd have confidently published some kind of actual hour figure without a scare citation.

  • po1nt 20 minutes ago
    The biggest downside of this product is Windows
  • lastdong 48 minutes ago
    Surface has seen so many iterations, some terrible, some nice. Still rocking the discontinued surface laptop studio as Wacom on the go, smallish footprint (14”) creative development machine. I just love its quirkiness and the fact that I can jump on photoshop to touch up an image, use it as tablet for movies, or vs code for (not great nowadays) 6h on battery. It is an odd intersection.
    • t_mahmood 37 minutes ago
      And I have one that I use as thin client for my desktop, Linux made it usable! 10 year old surface pro 3, 8 to 9hr battery life, takes less than 20s to boot up to Gnome, no issues browsing on Firefox, it's a solid device on the go. And to my total surprise, it retained charge even after almost a month of no usage.
  • whatever1 2 hours ago
    No price? I guess over 3k for 128GB ram and Nvidia spark.
    • KeplerBoy 48 minutes ago
      Also RAM was still quite a bit cheaper when the DGX was announced back in early '25.
    • mrheosuper 50 minutes ago
      I read somewhere, $4k for 64gb ram
    • forthefuture 1 hour ago
      Is it possible to be cheaper than the DGX Spark? Because that's $4,700. I would think Spark + Laptop would be necessarily more expensive.
  • einpoklum 3 minutes ago
    Surface Laptop Ultra Ripoff: Made for World(-Class) Suckers.
  • ramon156 24 minutes ago
    I sometimes wonder if the "Corporate VP" (whatever that means) believes his own jerk-off marketing
    • officialchicken 12 minutes ago
      I have no doubt that huffing their own farts until euphoria hits is considered a critical skill.
  • fragmede 37 minutes ago
    What's conspicuously absent, is the CPU that's going to power this thing. Yes, it's got an Nvidia GPU, but does it have an Intel CPU, an AMD CPU, an Nvidia ARM CPU, or someone else's ARM CPU?
    • trympet 24 minutes ago
      My understanding is that it’s got a bespoke 20 core Nvidia Vera CPU - unified RTX Vera Rubin Spark chip. Seems like Nvidia trying to copy Apple M-series chip
      • int0x29 7 minutes ago
        Isn't it a mediatek CPU with an Nvidia GPU on the same package? At least thats what most of the reporting for nvidia laptop chips has been saying.
    • taffydavid 24 minutes ago
      I could be wrong but I don't think there are any arm machines with nvidia GPU yet, I think that would be a first.

      So it's probably Intel

      • fragmede 14 minutes ago
        Nvidia's current flagship product is Nvidia GB200 NVL72, which is a super computer the size of however many racks you can afford, with 72 Blackwell CPUs and 36 Grace ARM CPUs to a rack. At the other end of the spectrum, is the Nvidia Jetson series, which is a GPU attached to an Nvidia Grace ARM CPU.

        Nevermind, it's totally this chip/board.

        https://www.techtimes.com/articles/317428/20260530/nvidia-ar...

  • jauntywundrkind 43 minutes ago
    I wonder what kind of brightness that 2000 nit screen will actually deliver? Everyone rates their screens on peak, but then SDR is the same 250-350 nit range for most systems.

    What's the actual connectivity? USB4? with or without PCIe tunneling? How many ports?

    How much is it going to weigh? Battery life? Battery capacity?

    DGX Spark desktops idle close to 20w on Linux: that's a lot for a laptop. I'm expecting Nvidia+Microsoft stepped up their driver game some for this release, but it's wild how few creature comforts or nicities DGX Spark came with. Launched with and still has almost no power monitoring or power management capabilities. If you turn on the highspeed NIC it turns into a 40W hotbox even at idle. Nvidia has such a weird mix of supporting what they want to support well, but doing absolutely nothing else. The way Shield TV is still occasionally getting some updates is impressive for example, but it's stayed on an ancient Android version & went a good fraction of a decade without update. Similarly, keeping folks locked on rickety old Linux4Tegra and now DGX Spark heavily modified Linux OSes has been brutal. It's hard to believe this system is going to be much better than a fantastically expensive bag of barely managed idiosyncratic quirks.

  • ghjseccx3305 41 minutes ago
    Windows…