Turkey Hacked the Hair Transplant Industry

(wired.com)

51 points | by joozio 2 days ago

9 comments

  • olalonde 59 minutes ago
    I did it a few years ago when I was living in Istanbul. One evening, a friend of mine wouldn't shut up about the procedure. I ended up booking it almost on a whim, mostly just to prove him wrong. I did the transplant the next day. In the end, I was very happy with the results. I think it cost around 1500$.

    https://raw.githubusercontent.com/olalonde/olalonde.github.c...

    • moduspol 22 minutes ago
      I had three done in the states and I'm happy with them, but it's tough to argue it was necessarily worth the increased price.
    • koolba 55 minutes ago
      How did it hold up over the past few years?
    • Teknomadix 53 minutes ago
      This is just like, my opinion man. You looked better bald.
      • john_strinlai 51 minutes ago
        this is one of those "if you have nothing nice to say" moments. there's really no reason for your comment.
      • amanaplanacanal 7 minutes ago
        The thing is, you can always shave your head, no matter how magnificent your hair is.
      • syspec 45 minutes ago
        Dude, you're crazy! You look great now, prob one of the best procedures of it I've seen.

        Also I notice my wife and female friends NEVER seem to notice when someone has plugs.

        When I occasionally point it out, they're always surprised.

        I haven't done it as I don't need it, but I would say anyone on the fence, just do it.

        From what I know it's easier to keep what you have that get a transplant so fire up that HIMs subscription

        • olalonde 41 minutes ago
          Thanks! It's really hard to tell. Most people are surprised when I tell them (unless they knew me before the procedure).
      • olalonde 44 minutes ago
        Thanks, I guess I could still shave :) But it's definitely not a common opinion.
        • itishappy 26 minutes ago
          Would it leave a cool pattern?
  • TrackerFF 26 minutes ago
    As a guy that started experiencing moderate hair loss in his 20s, I spent countless hours researching the Turkish hair transplant industry.

    It's a case of having the right people at the right place, at the right time. Turkey have some of the leading doctors and clinics in this field, and have had for years. They were also located in a place which was close to both customers from Europe and the Middle-East, and could offer FUE (Follicular Unit Extraction) procedures at a very nice price.

    Even the very top doctors there were charging a relatively modest price, compared to their (more) western colleagues. And I guess with the sheer volume they'd go through, they discovering new best practices, techniques, etc. along the way.

    Back when I did research on this, now 15 years ago, the industry was starting to really take off. This was reflected in the prices that the best clinics charged. Some of them jumped up 50% in a short time, when photo-driven social media like Instagram started blowing up.

    And then a whole industry sprung out of it. Many excellent clinics, tons more mediocre (to horrendous) ones that are only trying to compete on price.

    Guess this also goes for the dental industry there.

  • patates 1 hour ago
    My grandmother used to say, "the Americans are going to space while we're just growing butt-hair". She was so close!
    • rvnx 1 hour ago
      Butt hair is not that bad if you compare to European promoted tech leaders:

      There is Microsoft, we have Qwant.

      There is Claude and DeepSeek, we have Mistral (originally a copy-paste of LLaMA stolen by employees, now a fork of DeepSeek, with a few changes).

      Then there is ASML and Airbus, alone on their island of innovation.

      We have LIDL too, so not everything is bad.

      If it wouldn’t be that bad why European companies prefer the US.

      • f6v 42 minutes ago
        The only caveat is that Turkey isn't even an EU candidate anymore. So not sure why you bring Europe up.
  • Ringz 1 hour ago
  • kilroy123 1 hour ago
    So I spent time living in Istanbul a few years ago. It really was wild. In the touristy areas (near where I lived), you really would see loads and loads of bald guys walking around with stitches on their heads.

    If I were bald, I would totally go there and do the same.

    • brightball 1 hour ago
      It's interesting to read about.

      I visited one of those Bosley places in the US. The pitch came across as very...predatory? It did not inspire confidence. They would only consider scheduling you for the surgery if you could demonstrate that you'd use other measures for a year, meaning finasteride, one of those laser hat things, etc. They did talk about how few surgeons there were that do this stuff well though. Also talked about scalp injections I think?

      It's been several years. I just decided to let it go naturally and deal with it.

      • simiones 1 hour ago
        > The pitch came across as very...predatory? It did not inspire confidence. They would only consider scheduling you for the surgery if you could demonstrate that you'd use other measures for a year, meaning finasteride, one of those laser hat things, etc.

        I don't want to defend the esthetic surgery industry in general, which I do think tends to be quite predatory, but doesn't this sound like the opposite of that? If they really wanted to fleece you, wouldn't they offer surgery instead of the safer and cheaper treatments?

        • JackFr 1 hour ago
          > If they really wanted to fleece you

          Tip: Bald people the worst to fleece.

    • olalonde 29 minutes ago
      Haha, true. Another advantage of doing it in Istanbul is that you don't look like a weirdo walking around with your headband and scarred scalp.
    • TylerE 43 minutes ago
      Am I the only one that likes being bald? Hair maintenance has always been a huge drag for me (yea executive dysfunction!) and when I had it I hated it getting in my eyes. I was balding anyway. Started shaving my whole head at the start of COVID and haven't stopped. I love it.
      • S_Bear 21 minutes ago
        Club Happily Bald here. My wife prefers me without hair, and razor blades are significantly cheaper than haircuts. I can't imagine trying to preserve my hair.
      • f6v 41 minutes ago
        I like a 10mm buzz cut, but it's nice to not have bold spots.
  • laszlojamf 49 minutes ago
    The title just goes to show that

    1. the turkish government had reasons for trying to get people to use "Türkiye" instead.

    2. It's still not working.

    I 100% thought this was about birds until clicking

  • tokai 1 hour ago
    Words are truly losing their meaning if its a hack to develop a business.
    • embedding-shape 1 hour ago
      I can't read the article myself, but the blurbs I can read:

      > Turkey’s billion-dollar hair-transplant industry is the result of a constant process of innovation. [...] it’s also a tale of “hacked” medical equipment and algorithmic craftsmanship

      Seems there was some actual "hacking" involved, if they had to patch medical equipment, but who knows how much of the article is actually about that, I can't actually see any text.

      • graemep 1 hour ago
        > I can't actually see any text.

        Turn off JS

    • patates 1 hour ago
      Yeah they totally isomorphed that industry!
    • wil421 1 hour ago
      Hack is being used to get more clicks.
    • m000 1 hour ago
      If you're not white enough, it's a hack. You can get around this problem by attracting some VC funding and building your HQ in Silicon Valley. /s
    • asibahi 1 hour ago
      It’s hacking when it’s someone you don’t like.
      • antonvs 1 hour ago
        In this context it's being used in much the same way as in "growth hacking", which is an actual position people hire for.
  • cactusplant7374 1 hour ago
    Has there been any progress on cloning hair follicles? I don’t want to move the hair around. I simply want more hair.
    • giarc 1 hour ago
      I saw a headline about this the other day. I couldn't find it but did come across this article. https://www.zmescience.com/medicine/genetic/lab-grown-hair-f...

      No idea if ZME science is reputable at all.

      • TylerE 41 minutes ago
        Totally unreputable. That is not a scientific journal. That is some guy (Who's degree is in geophysics) biog. The article was written by him.
    • embedding-shape 1 hour ago
      Could I donate mine to you? Been shaving my head for the last 20 years and I cannot wait for it to stop growing eventually... Seemingly it grows faster every year, as I need to continuously increase how often I trim it, I simply want less hair.

      Edit: I love that someone downvoted me for offering my hair follicles to a random stranger, downvotes truly happen randomly here :)

      • ratg13 1 hour ago
        You can't donate hair follicles .. it has to come from your own body
      • PyWoody 1 hour ago
        Buddy, I hope you have a glove on because you're about to catch these fists!
    • Traubenfuchs 1 hour ago
      Yes, yes it's coming. In 10 years.
      • Maken 1 hour ago
        Just in time for fusion energy?
        • postsantum 1 hour ago
          Yes, imagine endless energy and endless hair. It's like nuclear and hippy again, but stronger and ai-government-mandated
        • boringg 1 hour ago
          No no fusion energy company is going public shortly so the technology must be closer than that :)
      • XorNot 39 minutes ago
        There wasn't an effective weightloss drug until suddenly there was though.
  • n64controller 40 minutes ago
    Wayne Rooney lost his strength, motivation and creativity directly after his hair transplant. Some speculate the pills you need to take forever afterwards mess up your hormones. It's not worth it just to look good for women and "impressing" other people. His body turned into a fat womens body.
    • olalonde 35 minutes ago
      There are no pills to take afterwards, except perhaps painkillers. Some people who are balding chose to take finasteride but it's unrelated to the procedure itself.