Here's a funny Z combinator in typescript in pure SKI form for lambda calculus purist:
const K = <A, B>(a: A) => (_b: B) => a;
const S = <A, B, C>(a: (x: C) => (y: B) => A) => (b: (x: C) => B) => (c: C) => a(c)(b(c));
const Z = S(K(S(S(K)(K))(S(K)(K))))(S(S(K(S))(K))(K(S(K(S(S)(S(K))))(S(S(K(S))(K))(K)))));
I feel like introducing lambda calculus (using JS syntax) would be less cumbersome and convoluted than referring to "the challenge" without really justifying it and deferring to respect the rules for so long. But maybe some people entirely unfamiliar with these concepts find this approach easier?
It sets a challenge as a rhetorical tool, but then completely fails to honour the challenge through the bulk of the explanation.
- don’t use recursion: spends multiple paragraphs implying that a function calling itself isn’t recursion
- don’t use declaration: ignoring that defining arguments to a function is declaration
I’m not saying the article is “wrong”. But I thunk I’d have preferred a plain intro to lambda calculus.
(Writing this as someone who has struggled to learn “real” functional programming the few times I’ve tried over the past 20+ years, but who very much likes using RxJS and the functional flavour of lodash and wishes I could see deeper into that black hole.)
Thanks for taking the time to reply! So it's just as I thought, convoluted and cumbersome, to do it that way. I wasn't sure if I thought so because I'm already familiar with all these concepts.
Good to see this in the second chance pool. Unfortunately I don't think most commenters know what the article is about and thus we may end up with this submission leaving the front page quickly, a shame though as the YC namesake is from similar articles as these, a company that produces other companies, as Paul Graham had said.
It sets a challenge as a rhetorical tool, but then completely fails to honour the challenge through the bulk of the explanation.
- don’t use recursion: spends multiple paragraphs implying that a function calling itself isn’t recursion
- don’t use declaration: ignoring that defining arguments to a function is declaration
I’m not saying the article is “wrong”. But I thunk I’d have preferred a plain intro to lambda calculus.
(Writing this as someone who has struggled to learn “real” functional programming the few times I’ve tried over the past 20+ years, but who very much likes using RxJS and the functional flavour of lodash and wishes I could see deeper into that black hole.)
It did the opposite. It wrote many paragraphs of code and threw each one out as soon as recursion showed up.