7 comments

  • johnathan101 27 minutes ago
    Regardless of whether this specific claim is true, enterprises are becoming much more cautious about developer tools that can read large portions of proprietary codebases.
    • spwa4 8 minutes ago
      Wasn't one of the big promises the AI labs made "uncopyrighting"? Ie. the ability to reconstruct large works, including source code, without actual access to the source code? Everything from movies to operating systems.
  • eunos 44 minutes ago
    What Claude Code did is absolutely mindboggling tho, if Chinese harness did that probably POTUS would lose sleep.
    • cognitiveinline 35 minutes ago
      Exaggerate much? If you think POTUS would lose sleep about a date format timezone marker, I don't know what to tell you.
    • yard2010 11 minutes ago
      Wait what do you mean "if"?
  • feverzsj 33 minutes ago
    Considering their massive distillation, if US companies stop publishing new models to the public, would China still be able to develop new open weight models?
    • bel8 24 minutes ago
      I don't think China would strugle to scrape the internet for fresh data.

      And they constantly publish state of the art LLM research (see DS4 context compaction and cache tech).

      They have very capable tech giants. So while not being able to distill western models would probably have some impact, it's probably becoming lesser as time passes.

      We might even see Western LLMs distilling Chinese models soon. If they aren't already to some extent.

    • margorczynski 23 minutes ago
      China has most probably already achieved "escape velocity" on the software side. Now if they achieve parity, to some degree at least, on the hardware side with Nvidia it is very possible they'll overtake the US.
    • tristanj 24 minutes ago
      Yes, 100%. GLM 5.2 is capable of RSI. It's too late to stop.
  • HlessClaudesman 11 minutes ago
    Translation: Alibaba will continue distillation attacks using accounts that aren't directly attributable to it's own corporate infrastructure.
  • yanhangyhy 1 hour ago
    i gonna ask: how can they still use claude? i thought all users in china are banned
    • dgellow 50 minutes ago
      Alibaba has engineers in Hongkong, Singapore, North America. It’s a global corporation
      • itake 34 minutes ago
        when i was in hongkong, chatgpt and gemini were disabled. Maybe this has changed though. When I was in China, the corporate vpn (zscaler) routed traffic through hk
    • bravetraveler 59 minutes ago
      Same way every ban is evaded, smurfing
    • dist-epoch 17 minutes ago
      The same way they buy "banned" and "sanctioned" NVIDIA GPUs.
    • playnuu9 1 hour ago
      There is a reason Singapore tops the rank on Claude usage
      • byzantinegene 34 minutes ago
        the government also actively promotes AI usage in work environments
    • _flux 54 minutes ago
      Does Alibaba only have developers in the China?
      • one33seven 46 minutes ago
        Did china invent VPNs yet?
    • josh-wrale 1 hour ago
      Cc can be used with non Anthropic models.
    • re-thc 1 hour ago
      > how can they still use claude?

      Workarounds aside, it says Claude Code not Claude.

      i.e. they are using the CLI running any model. You can for instance run GLM with it.

  • rvnx 1 hour ago
    Can't say they are wrong, after the latest backdoor, or let's say, undocumented functionality that leaks some data that was pushed in Claude Code few days ago

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48759754

    • dgellow 45 minutes ago
      That’s not what a backdoor is…
      • tpoacher 21 minutes ago
        Rear entrance then
      • rvnx 27 minutes ago
        When a company can remotely push code without explicit user approval, and code that was hostile / almost malicious, it is a backdoor
  • rvz 42 minutes ago
    Another reason to use open source coding agents and local language models.

    Claude Code is neither and it is literally info stealing malware.