Study: "Mommy, do you love your phone more than me?"

(frontiersin.org)

58 points | by hbcondo714 5 hours ago

4 comments

  • Aeolun 1 hour ago
    This tracks with my son’s observations on my wife’s phone use. She’ll tell him to stop watching youtube, then go right back to doing so herself.

    It doesn’t really seem to compute how hypocritical that is.

    • scotty79 1 hour ago
      About as much as telling your kid to not drink beer while you are doing it yourself.
      • Gigachad 51 minutes ago
        Aside from the physical/chemical damage alcohol does to developing brains, alcohol addiction is bad for adults too. We just concede that after childhood you can make your own choice to ruin your life.

        Phone addiction is harmful to everyone at all age groups. It's not really the individuals to blame through. The tech companies have broken human psychology and developed something more addictive than drugs.

    • tayo42 55 minutes ago
      Wyh can't it be something like I don't want you to end up like me? I don't think it's hypocritical

      Changing habits is hard enough on it's own.parenthood and modern life makes that even more difficult

      • r_lee 31 minutes ago
        this is what naive adults think, don't you remember how it was when you were a kid?

        I seriously, I feel like so many people just somehow magically forget their entire childhoods, maybe selectively?

        I lack the ability to lie to myself like that unfortunately

        • fouc 27 minutes ago
          it's like a variation of the principle of "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it"

          a solipsistic viewpoint I suppose.

        • tayo42 13 minutes ago
          I have no idea what your trying to say or what point you're trying to make.
          • r_lee 5 minutes ago
            ask an LLM or something, they seem to get the point just fine
  • Wolfenstein98k 1 hour ago
    I would expect anxious/insecure parents to use placating behaviours (like device use) themselves, and I would expect their children to be anxious/insecure too.

    So I would expect the study to find that the children of phone-overusers were more likely to be anxious/insecure.

    Still, I would also expect that less phone use (subbed with more attention to kid) would help the kid with this.

  • whatever1 1 hour ago
    Yes son. Go back to your iPad.
  • paytonjjones 1 hour ago
    This is a weak study that is exemplary of psychology's weak experimentation culture and correlation/causation laundering, especially with regard to self-report.

    The heavily hinted implication is that device use damages relationships. But look at what they actually measured. They ask adolescents to answer questions like:

    "My primary caregiver ignores me when they are on a device." (DAIS, their new scale)

    And then also ask them to answer questions like:

    "I often worry that this person doesn't really care for me." (ECR-RS)

    And then act like it's a revelation that these two self-report scales are correlated.

    A much more plausible causal explanation is that a single psychological variable (e.g. a bad relationship) causes both self reports, rather than the implied pathway that device use causes A, which then causes B.

    • irjustin 1 hour ago
      I largely agree this is a weak study, but it also feels like no matter how you run this study it's going to be flawed.

      Parent-child interactions, relationships, feelings are probably the hardest thing to quantify at any scale.

      In the end, it's really, "Pay more attention to your kids", which is a pretty good universal message to put across.

      • makeitdouble 8 minutes ago
        There is always a question of whether a bad study is better than no study.

        I think weak studies validating people's natural intuitions tend to do more damage than we give them credit for. Even if another better d signed study does way more work and comes with clear results that disprove the natural intuiton, it will be buried in the sea of low effort studies and people will already have settle the issue in their minds as "proven by science".

      • paytonjjones 1 hour ago
        A better version of this study would be to run an experiment where you take away (or heavily restrict) parental phone access over a month or two and measure the parent-child relationship vs. a control group.

        > "Pay more attention to your kids", which is a pretty good universal message to put across.

        I wouldn't be too sure of that actually: https://www.archbridgeinstitute.org/the-secret-to-parenting-...

    • tangenter 1 hour ago
      My dude, I don’t know how to explain this to you but phones and computers are addictive for people. They get hooked on them to feed the lizard brain with digital junk food engineered for engagement.
      • etrautmann 1 hour ago
        That’s irrelevant to the issue with the study that the parent identified.
      • Groxx 1 hour ago
        Manipulating "studies" doesn't help reveal how true this is (or even if it is, do we perhaps have an inherent level of addiction and phones are just an easy target?), nor help find effective ways to reduce it.