Why copper still rules the motherboard trace

(psyll.com)

7 points | by lucasfletcher 5 days ago

9 comments

  • blendergeek 42 minutes ago
    This is a tedious read that is mostly tangents from the headline. The question of “why copper?” is mostly about why not aluminum, silver, or gold. The article touches on aluminum but never bothers to answer why not silver/gold.

    This article has no central thesis and is instead a mishmash of random facts about electricity flow through circuit boards (often weirdly specific at that). Don't read this article hoping to find an answer to the question posed in the headline

    • cyberax 31 minutes ago
      Gold is not great for bulk traces, it has worse conductivity (thermal and electric) than copper. It's used for coatings because of its corrosion resistance and its incredible ductility.

      Silver would be better than copper, but the difference is not large (~8%) enough to justify the price differential.

  • Fordec 40 minutes ago
    Money. Whether it's material cost, technological complexity or lower efficiency reasons, regardless, the reason is money.
  • Skwid 28 minutes ago
    You can tell it's going to be a quality site when the article begins with a selection of PHP warnings. One link gave me a 410 which was a surprise, until I realised it returns 410 instead of 404 for every missing page.

    Please don't invest any time in these articles, the whole site is a bizarre AI generated marketing scam

    • consp 17 minutes ago
      The images scream cheap cow manure product comparison "our product is better than lousy competition". And it reads like a bloated LLM digest.
      • Skwid 4 minutes ago
        Curiously, I reverse searched a few of the alleged author's images and did get one exact match. On that site they were an Anonymous beauty blogger in a testimonials banner. That site also had a larger version of the same image with plenty of early stable diffusion style artifacts. Curious to know the process here, is it really easier to steal someone else’s slop than make your own these days?
  • amelius 35 minutes ago
    Next: OpenAI buys all the copper mines.
  • 21asdffdsa12 40 minutes ago
    Copper is not self sealing and thus destroys the electronics when breached by humidity? Makes it ideal.
  • da-x 5 days ago
    Copper from electronics is recyclable, so I'm guessing we should see more recycling of electronics if there are any mining difficulties.
    • AngryData 59 minutes ago
      I think its unlikely we will ever run into any real copper shortages longterm. It is a pretty common metal across the world and if costs start to rise there are tons of copper mining areas sitting around waiting for the economics of mining to be profitable.
      • myrmidon 34 minutes ago
        Copper price is up ~500% since 2000 btw, this is already downregulating its use.

        Not sure what your benchmark for shortage is, but if we had similar price development with fuel people would've gone ballistic.

        It's quite possible that this will further escalate over the next decades, because demand is continuously rising and mining/recycling is not keeping up with it.

  • phendrenad2 48 minutes ago
    Copper will remain relevant for some things, but the very high-end will probably start using SiP-to-SiP fiber, and the low-end (consumer devices) have everything bunched so close together you have to ask "what trace?"
  • crest 15 minutes ago
    Because those lazy chemists have stopped finding new elements to use instead. /s