The Cold Email

(zachholman.com)

30 points | by holman 2 hours ago

6 comments

  • sudo_cowsay 30 minutes ago
    Is human-like cold emails (with stuff like :D) better or worse than professionally written formal emails? Im a student and would like some tips. I know it depends on the situation but what would you rather see? And based on your experience, what would you respond to more?
    • gkoberger 22 minutes ago
      Definitely short and informal. You should have a legitimate reason to email (like, tell the person genuinely why you respect them or what about them you like), and a clear ask if there is one (asking for help, looking for a job, etc).

      I can easily tell when someone wrote 100 of them generically, vs when it's genuine, and I'll always respond to the genuine ones.

    • justsomehnguy 9 minutes ago
      You need to provide the reason in the first sentence. Sure, once in a while a do read some cold emails but most of the time if the one-line snippet in the list of all other messages doesn't provide a reason - it goes to the trash.
    • loloquwowndueo 28 minutes ago
      I’d rather see neither but if I must choose, formal it is.

      I ignore cold emails anyway.

  • gkoberger 32 minutes ago
    I met Zach wayyy back in 2016 via a code email to him! (hey Zach!)
    • holman 31 minutes ago
      See, it all worked out!
  • areoform 31 minutes ago
    I read a dozen inbound cold emails every day. I used to love it. I don't anymore, because every other single email uses The Sentence. Or, The Paragraph.

    Whatever model these people use, it always always puts in The Sentence (I don't want to disclose it publicly! I'm running an experiment. I'll write it up when it concludes. :) ). Or, worse, The Paragraph.

    Please use models to research people and learn about them. But please write the email yourself.

    It's instantly obvious. And even though I do my best not to hold it against someone, I would be lying if I didn't say that it isn't a bit annoying.

    Imagine reading endless variations of The Sentence 3,240 to 4,000 times a year. It feels straight out of the Twilight Zone.

    • andy99 23 minutes ago
      There’s such an opportunity, it has never been easier to differentiate oneself now, all you have to do is ignore whatever online advice or LLMs say and do your own thing, it’s sad that almost nobody does it.
    • idbnstra 25 minutes ago
      do you have a blog or newsletter to read about this experiment once it concludes?
  • pphysch 36 minutes ago
    I got a cold email recently and was happy to engage, but I warned them upfront that LLMs change the game, and asked for more info about their background (to authenticate them as a human). They replied with another unnecessarily long email that was light on details and reeked of AI Voice, so I ghosted at that point, unconvinced they were acting in good faith.

    Demonstrating authenticity and effort are super important in this space.

    • holman 32 minutes ago
      That's been my biggest annoyance lately. Everyone's trying to AI these sorts of things, but for people who get a lot of these frequently, it's pretty easy to spot. Talk like a human and you can go pretty far, though.
  • sixtyj 59 minutes ago
    I thought the post will be about writing cold emails :)

    > You can’t win unless you skate to where the puck is going to be buying a lotto ticket.

  • saltamimi 57 minutes ago
    I agree wholeheartedly with this article and this is something I'm struggling with my daughter about: the worst thing anybody can say is no and in some cases, they already said no. If you ask (or ask again), you might get a really good answer or more.