Twenty Years of Pandoc

(pandoc.org)

165 points | by fiddlosopher 14 hours ago

16 comments

  • adamddev1 6 hours ago
    > by writing N parsers (“readers”) and M renderers (“writers”), one could support N × M conversions.

    Beautiful writeup for a wonderful project. In an age of vibe-coding hype it's also so nice to see how things can be extended and snowball in usefulness when things are built correctly, by hand, from basic principles.

    > Perhaps, then, in the future, people will no longer have a need for tools like pandoc.

    I think we will need wonderful things like pandoc more and more. As mentioned there is a huge ecological and practical difference. Even if LLMs could get infintisamally close to deterministic-level reliability, it's still so many more orders of magnitude better in efficiency, especially with big batch jobs etc.

    • vatsachak 3 hours ago
      Well the difficult part is finding a good intermediate representation, which they did
  • rahimnathwani 6 hours ago
    Pandoc is great. I use it multiple times per day to move content between Outlook emails and a coding harness:

    https://gist.github.com/rahimnathwani/210b1f9cb6ce731a304322...

      cat email-to-xyz.md | md2clip
    
      clip2md > email-from-xyz.md
  • raybb 2 hours ago
    To top it all off Pandoc has a great experience for contributors. Over the past few years I've opened several bug reports related to Typst and docx and all of them got responses that were kind and helpful. I even had a few PRs merged in despite knowing almost nothing of Haskell.
  • aanet 4 hours ago
    That a professor of philosophy [1] made tools [2] that are used by millions around the world... that's just mind boggling. In a good (great!) way.

    Pandoc is my go-to tool. Thank you, Sir!

    [1] https://johnmacfarlane.net/index.html

    [2] https://johnmacfarlane.net/tools.html

  • malkosta 5 hours ago
    Love pandoc, I use it for all sorts of stuff…here is my minimal static site generator:

    find . -name '*.md' -type f -exec sh -c '

      for file do  
        out="docs/${file#./}"  
        out="${out%.md}.html"
        mkdir -p "$(dirname "$out")"  
        pandoc --quiet --template template.html "$file" -o "$out"  
      done  
    
    ' sh {} +
  • koolba 1 hour ago
    Pandoc is awesome. My fav usage is configuring git to use it to normalize binary docs to markdown (like a .docx) so they can be diffed. Works amazing for redlining contacts.
  • aaplok 4 hours ago
    One thing I like with pandoc is that it produces clean html or latex code (it can also produce clean markdown with the right option).

    If you compare this with the HTML produced by typst or hevea, this is super useful, as we can then roll out our own styles.

  • darthoctopus 9 hours ago
    Thank you for pandoc. I made the (at the time perhaps not transparently wise) choice to go all in on it when I started my PhD, and that decision has paid nothing but dividends since. I owe my career as a scientist to it.
  • jiehong 8 hours ago
    Thanks so much for pandoc!

    I never heard about djot [0], is anyone using it?

    [0]: https://djot.net/

  • Curiositry 1 hour ago
    Pandoc is a fantastic piece of software. I have never had any issues with it, and it's the tool I reach for anytime I need to covert documents. I'm super grateful to John MacFarlane for creating it and maintaining it for all these years!
  • rao-v 6 hours ago
    I have at times mused that writing the internal state of pandoc to disk (yes 13th standard etc) would be the most interoperable file format
    • mjmas 3 hours ago

        pandoc document.md --to native
  • w10-1 1 hour ago
    unending thanks, as much for pandoc as for the example of a clear design+implementation that lasts.
  • graemep 7 hours ago
    Pandoc is amazing. I have HTML and want a PDF? One command and it just works painlessly. That was just my last use of pandoc this weekend. I do not use it that often, but when I do its perfect.
  • dannyobrien 5 hours ago
    My most used pandoc snippet:

    tidyhtml () { pandoc -f html-native_divs-native_spans -t markdown-raw_html-raw_attribute | pandoc -f markdown -t html }

    which strips out styling, wrapper divs, spans, inline attributes, etc from (for instance) HTML copied from a google or word doc. Just the semantic goodness!

  • BeetleB 5 hours ago
    pandoc was (and still is) critical to some of my flows. I hope it never dies!
  • oytech 6 hours ago
    Effort worth admiration. Thank you for creating pandoc! It allowed me to write my CV in more readable markdown, but also get nice pdf with latex.