Helsinki Hacker News Meetup

(calpaterson.com)

164 points | by calpaterson 5 hours ago

43 comments

  • toivo 3 hours ago
    Would be interesting to join but have to get bit more karma :)
    • darkwater 3 hours ago
      I think you will have enough after your message ;)
    • olegp 3 hours ago
      We're not too strict about that, please join!
    • patricjansson 3 hours ago
      Mission accomplished Toivo karma: 84
    • eric_khun 3 hours ago
      let me help
  • 71153750 3 hours ago
    I’m a student at Hive here in Helsinki and would love to attend. Lurking on HN for years but not nearly enough Karma. I’ve bookmarked the form for later however I’ll try my luck anyway with the form now. Very cool to know there is an HN meet up here!
    • 71153750 3 minutes ago
      Thank you for the karma on the above comment HN, I've since kindly been added to the group. No more helpful get 71153750 into the meetup karma needed. I will endeavour to comment more and post to earn it!
    • calpaterson 1 hour ago
      You were added :) See you in person
  • sqbic 3 hours ago
    Nice one! As a seasoned industry veteran, I've been wanting to have something like this, and while there are many evening tech meetups going on around here, your schedule is much more suitable for the otherwise busy life! *starts karma mining to qualify*

    Filled the form and included my email with the HN user ID just in case you'd be willing to deliver the meeting details that way when they've been decided.

    The phone number is not associated with WhatsApp (never had it, and won't), but it works with Signal in case it would be more viable option for meetup info comms than email. Who knows, perhaps even a shadow group already exists there, or has potential to get established?

    Thank you for arranging such gatherings, hoping to meet up soon!

  • calpaterson 5 hours ago
    We've been organising this for a while (a year? more?). It's quite relaxed - just a coffee morning every month or two.

    I'm sure there are other HN local meetups who could post in this thread - please do if you have a local meetup

    • artisinal 24 minutes ago
      Would love to organise a meet in Ineleț
    • enricozb 42 minutes ago
      Replying in case anyone is in Amsterdam :)
    • suslik 58 minutes ago
      Would love to join something like this in Brussels
    • weli 4 hours ago
      Please! Would love HN meetup in Berlin.
      • Towaway69 24 minutes ago
        I've put my email in my profile, if you want to join the email thread, then send me an email :+1:

        If anyone else wants to join the email thread for a Berlin HN meetup, ping me an email - no google nor whatsapp required ;)

      • kamyarg 1 hour ago
        Interested in Berlin also. Happy to help co-organize also. Email in profile.
      • earthnail 3 hours ago
        +1 for Berlin. Moving there in two weeks. Pls email me; my email is in my profile (your profile doesn’t show an email at the time of writing).
        • Towaway69 1 hour ago
          Just sent out an email thread to those that have emails in Berlin!
      • bossyTeacher 3 hours ago
        Make it happen, don't wait for someone else to do the work on your behalf :)
    • techsystems 1 hour ago
      Anyone Eindhoven?
    • rrr_oh_man 4 hours ago
      Excellent initiative, Cal! Thanks for organising
    • svlasov 4 hours ago
      Too bad this requires using WhatsUp.
      • olegp 3 hours ago
        WhatsApp isn't really required. If you submit the form, we will email about about the date and location of the next event.
  • deanc 2 hours ago
    Hi. Long-term HN user based in Helsinki. I'd join but don't really want to share my phone number with a large group of people. Can you not find another way to co-ordinate?
    • asimovDev 1 hour ago
      There should be an email sent out whenever a meet is organized. WhatsApp group is mostly for choosing the most suitable date and a place , it’s not mandatory for participation
    • stronglikedan 1 hour ago
      You don't have a throwaway Google Voice number? I use one for dating apps. Very convenient and worry free.
      • embedding-shape 32 minutes ago
        Someone correct me if I'm wrong (I've never used it myself), but Google Voice doesn't seem to be available in Finland at all so probably not?

        > Google Voice is a telephone service that provides a U.S. telephone number to Google Account customers in the U.S. and Google Workspace customers in Canada, Denmark, France, the Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, the United Kingdom and the contiguous United States.

        Not sure what I'm supposed to do with a US phone number anyway, I'd probably be more embarrassed about using a US phone number then letting people in a HN meetup group see my real phone number.

      • deanc 33 minutes ago
        This is a conversation about a HN meetup in Europe. Google voice is not available on the free tier to Europeans. It requires google workspace.
    • Hamuko 1 hour ago
      Doesn't WhatsApp have usernames these days?
      • deanc 1 hour ago
        I believe in a group chat you can see everyone's phone number.
        • Melatonic 1 hour ago
          They're rolling out a new feature I believe to allow username only
  • punnerud 3 hours ago
    What a great idea! Anyone that want to join up in Oslo / Norway?

    I can use the work office, have more then enough coffee, tea etc. with space to around 150 people.

    https://forms.gle/2pDEkQTYihQ4txK29

    (Copy pasted the form. Why change a winning team)

    • e12e 2 hours ago
      Unfortunately it's a little far to go for coffee from Tromsø.
  • qifzer 3 hours ago
    Hacker News London meets up on a semi-regular basis. They have recently moved from Meetup to Luma:

    https://luma.com/calendar/cal-plFkEeW4fsaL5Nx

  • wissio 3 hours ago
    Ironically, a karma threshold will rule out most Finns
  • slerb 4 hours ago
    I'd love to join, sadly I'm mainly lurking around here so I don't have the required karma.
    • notpushkin 3 hours ago
      Tell a bit more about yourself and maybe somebody would invite you as a +1?
  • workfromspace 18 minutes ago
    Do we have enough people in Tallinn, Estonia to organize one here as well? :)
  • BonerWiener 3 hours ago
    > We use a WhatsApp group for co-ordination

    I would've gladly joined if you hadn't decided on a service owned by Meta...

    • icy 3 hours ago
      It initially begun as an email thread, but we settled on WhatsApp owing to, well, most people having WhatsApp.
      • mr_mitm 2 hours ago
        Surely e-mail is even more widely used?
        • theshrike79 2 hours ago
          Dunno if it's a generational thing or what, but I check my email like maybe once a day sometimes I can go 2-3 days without looking at it. It's just a place where Stuff gathers and I go through it when I Get around to it. Can't even remember when I used email to actually communicate with a non-business entity outside of work.

          WhatsApp messages I get immediately.

          • e12e 2 hours ago
            Surely checking once every three days is frequent enough to see an invite for a meetup that happens once every eight to ten weeks?
    • tamimio 33 minutes ago
      My thoughts exactly, but I noticed Europe is heavily dependent on WhatsApp for some reason, everyone I have ever talked to before they ask for WhatsApp and some even look shocked when you say you never use it! Instead of email, simpleX or element would do the job.
    • RicoElectrico 3 hours ago
      I am not from the area but the deliberations about which messaging platform is kosher are an enormous time waste for every bottom-up organization, especially FOSS projects or hacker spaces.
      • opan 2 hours ago
        Interesting you think it's less important for "FOSS projects". I would think the chat should be free software especially in those circles. IRC, XMPP, Matrix, email. Lots of options that have been around for decades now.
      • Hamuko 3 hours ago
        As a Finn, I've definitely had to say the phrase "No, I don't have WhatsApp" more times than I care to count. That being said, I imagine a FOSS project or hacker space to be more cognisant of WhatsApp's ownership than a car dealership trying to sell me a used car via video call. I got rid of my WhatsApp precisely because Meta started tweaking the terms of service.
        • calpaterson 2 hours ago
          There is a conscientious objector to every communication system. As was said above: WhatsApp had the fewest.
          • teddyh 1 hour ago
            There are a few people who don’t use e-mail, sure, like Donald Knuth. But conscientious objectors to e-mail? I don’t know of any, and if you find any, they probably don’t use the Internet, either.
            • Melatonic 1 hour ago
              There is also Böbbi Tables from Trollhein
    • izacus 2 hours ago
      They'll enjoy their time without you just fine.
  • Melatonic 49 minutes ago
    I see a bunch of people interested in Los Angeles on https://meet.hn/
  • king_crimson 3 hours ago
    Anyone who’d be interested in a meetup in Cologne?
    • yitchelle 44 minutes ago
      I am in if it one is running. email in bio if you want to reach out to coordinate.
    • olegp 3 hours ago
      There was one 14 years ago. I even gave a talk there once. Maybe some of the original organizers or attendees who commented on this post would be interested in rebooting it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4754269
    • gpugreg 3 hours ago
      Sure! But where?
    • DomB 3 hours ago
      +1
  • VCFundedGenYer 1 hour ago
    Not going, but just adding commentary - Having a karma requirement for a physical meetup is a poor choice. People will come out physically if they truly care, gatekeeping it with internet points is a bad idea, especially if you turn people away.
    • calpaterson 1 hour ago
      Having it be an open invitation meetup would attract a very different cohort and would have a very different character. Feel free to start that meetup - I might give it a try. But I wouldn't be interested in spending my personal time organising it
      • Maxion 57 minutes ago
        Specifically only interested in this because of the karma limit.
  • asimpletune 3 hours ago
    Would anyone be interested in meeting up in Rome? My contact's on my profile and I'm happy to organize.
    • zedr 3 hours ago
      Perhaps we could host it jointly in Milan and Rome?
  • mchinen 2 hours ago
    I'd love tips for maintaining a good meetup.

    I tend to like the smaller meetups that are focused. But they often degrade in quality as they scale. A failure mode I hit several times was group circles with a louder or opinionated person eventually entering and taking the focus of the group. For large meetups that's not an issue I suppose. Break-out groups did work, but it needs some planning.

  • amberjack 56 minutes ago
    I live in Helsinki so this seems fun. Commenters everywhere are a pretty strongly (self-)selected bunch so seems like a good way to get a strong selection effect without arduous requirements. Does anyone have previous experience with this kind of a setup?
  • ramon156 3 hours ago
    Any Meetups in NL? Im far from the Randstad, would've loved to host one otherwise
    • TrueGeek 2 hours ago
      If you're near the Maastricht / Aachen area:

      https://www.meetup.com/euregiotechmeetup/

    • tosti 3 hours ago
      I'd rather not go there. Too crowded, too busy, too much violence. I wouldn't mind a city, though. Is Zwolle an option?

      Edit: just saw your profile, sorry never mind ^^'

    • techsystems 1 hour ago
      Eindhoven?
  • melvinroest 2 hours ago
    Anyone want to organize one in Amsterdam with me? I live near the area, would be fun :)
  • joshdavham 45 minutes ago
    Any meetups in Vancouver, Canada?
  • rrr_oh_man 4 hours ago
    That is amazing. Back in Helsinki soon. <3
  • Hugsbox 2 hours ago
    Makes me wonder if there's any meetups in my neck of the woods in good ole Nova Scotia. I kind of doubt it, but it would be wicked. Hope you guys have a great time!
  • hnacobsxph 2 hours ago
    This is what I keep telling people
  • mixnix 1 hour ago
    Is there one for Warsaw?
  • matheusmoreira 2 hours ago
    Is there a list of these by country?
    • calpaterson 1 hour ago
      There is https://meet.hn/, which is a good way to bootstrap (and indeed, how I bootstrapped this meetup)
      • matheusmoreira 1 hour ago
        Hey I'm already on the site! Used to have the link with my city on my profile.

        How does one bootstrap a meet from this? Just explore the map around my location and try to get in contact with people somehow?

        • calpaterson 21 minutes ago
          You pray that people either have their contact details in their HN profile or that they attached some social networks to their meet.hn post.

          Then you trawl through your set of qualified leads :)

  • huksley 3 hours ago
    Very cool, excited to join as well - lets talk there is opportunity to have a space for this up to 20-30 ppl
  • tommica 2 hours ago
    Man, if I still lived in Finland, I'd absolutely want to go! Seems like a fantastic idea!
  • soderfoo 4 hours ago
    Nice. Does anyone know if a Stockholm group exists?
    • JackDanMeier 3 hours ago
      Not as far as I know. We can surely start one tho. I wouldn't mind just setting a spot and time, and then those who can just show or don't.

      I can make a post about it promoting it.

      • mingusrude 2 hours ago
        I'd be interested too.
      • walagran 2 hours ago
        HN Fika! Lmk if you set it up
  • notpushkin 3 hours ago
    This is very cool. I’ve lived in Tallinn for a while so definitely would attend if it was ~5-ish years ago.
  • knuckleheads 3 hours ago
    Long shot, but if there is anybody reading this from Salzburg, lmk if you want to meet up!
  • ionwake 3 hours ago
    theres def atleast one OG guy id love to buy a coffee/beer for there, no idea if he goes to HN meets tho, would love to attend at when Im next over there in any case.
  • Arshad-Talpur 3 hours ago
    Is there any meetup in Paris?
  • icy 3 hours ago
    Thanks for reminding me to attend this. I'll try to join the next one!
  • mchinen 2 hours ago
    Any interest in a Lisbon meetup?
  • nxtbl 1 hour ago
    > We use a WhatsApp group for co-ordination. The time and location of the meetup is announced there.

    That's a hard no. You really, really should use Signal instead.

    • outime 54 minutes ago
      I suppose organizers choose the easiest way to contact people rather than relying on one of the least-used messaging apps that people won't install just to attend a meetup.

      Edit: It doesn't even seem to be strictly required https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49181030

      • nxtbl 11 minutes ago
        They could easily use both, if necessary.

        Or link them and more via a Matrix server - but that would require a bit more work to do.

  • getpokedagain 3 hours ago
    Anyone north east pa USA?
    • nabeards 1 hour ago
      As in North East, PA, the town in Erie County?
  • dlojudice 3 hours ago
    great idea! pls, hnmeetup.com/[place] anyone?
    • notpushkin 2 hours ago
      https://meet.hn/ is tangential but not quite for meetups, just discovering who lives nearby. Could be a good starting point though!
  • jrflowers 3 hours ago
    > To keep the group focused on posters (and not just readers!) anyone can join so long as:

    > they have a non-greenname account

    > they have 64 karma or more

    Is the karma checked at the door or is it at the time of submission? Seems like somebody could be at 12 and then post “actually I believe the general consensus on gravity is wrong” in the right thread the night before and roll in with 89 points

    • earthnail 3 hours ago
      Then they made a proper effort to get there. Fair game IMHO.
  • jdw64 4 hours ago
    Ah, if only I were from Helsinki, I would have signed up.
    • xxs 3 hours ago
      Tallinn - then take ferry
  • excalibur 46 minutes ago
    Imagine hosting a meetup in Chicago and getting raided by ICE
  • block_dagger 3 hours ago
    64 karma requirement? Pfft. I’d go to a 1k min karma meetup tho ;)
    • rrr_oh_man 3 hours ago
      I refuse to join any meetup where some like me meets the karma requirements.
    • ifdefdebug 3 hours ago
      You mean 1024 right?
      • voxelghost 3 hours ago
        You mean 1337 right? You are almost there, just need 20 more.
      • xxs 3 hours ago
        sounds about right, people with 64 with just drink the (supposedly) free beer and not talk until much later.
      • Metacelsus 3 hours ago
    • Retr0id 3 hours ago
      1k? pfft, I'd go to a 10k karma meetup
      • valvar 1 hour ago
        Personally, I’d only meet with those in the triple digits of karma.
  • trilogic 3 hours ago
    It was interesting until I saw:

    >To join, fill out the Google Form.

    Bro gtfoh

    • opan 2 hours ago
      What would you suggest instead for others hosting events like this?