So in Dutch one expression for "that makes no sense" is "dat slaat nergens op", which literally translates to "that doesn't hit (slap, beat) anything".
A ruder variation of that is "dat slaat als een … op een drumstel", or "that hits like a … on a drum set".
"Als een tang op een varken" is the common one for me as well. Runner up: "Als een lul op een stadsbus" (it makes as much sense as a dick against a city bus)
This is brilliant! I wish I had seen this a few years back!
Q: Generating higher quality sounds with a specified duration (e.g. within a 300ms margin) -- is it possible with your approach, is it hard, how would you go about that?
I'm asking because a few years back I had an idea for a breathwork/meditation app that would allow you to connect / control the breath duration using a gong sound. Example pattern: 4s in, 4s wait, 8-10s out. Next: use a feedback loop with the real user breathing pattern, slowly extend towards the goal.
Ended up with scaling it down to a "dot to stare at" + basic gong, because I realised how ridiculously chromatically complex the sound is. (my approach was to synthesise an envelope with a shape determined by time -- pity the fool who thought it was easy or even made sense!)
I got +100k people visiting it and still a couple dozen daily users running a 5+ min session, so I'm happy with it. But, the itch is still there, so I'd love to revisit my old nemesis so to speak :)
Also, if you want to chat about this, hit me up sonnet.io/posts/hi !
This is very fun to play with and design different drums. I was able to make one that had 4 connected but distinct regions giving different pitches, then within each of those regions (which look like 4 lobes of different sizes) where you tap on that region will further change the sound! Then I realized I basically just made a hand pan.
Separate to the concerns about privacy others have, I found some ear-splitting pitch errors with making very narrow asterisk-shaped drums with a number of spokes not divisible by 2 or 3. Good thing my volume was low.
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This website has a list of data vendors 200 pages long, and it forces you to uncheck each one if you don't consent. I decided to close the tab rather than deal with this illegal dark pattern.
there's an amazing video on youtube about how metal bar/gong instruments (like gamelans) have different overtones, and regular western intervals instead of being consonant (like with vibrating strings) are dissonant - even perfect 5ths - and a totally different set of intervals are consonant (slendro and pelog tunings are a bit different for this reason).
thinking about it, each drum here would have totally different ideal scales to the others.
A friend told me that a Dutch university ordered a custom gamelan tuned chromatically. It was a total failure and sounds terrible. The gamelan are made one by one w the oldest member of the group making his first and everyone tuning theirs from his down in turn, IIRC.
Yeah, just have to make sure your phone isn’t on silent for sound effects in the browser.
Also if you use an ad blocker, which I highly recommend, you wouldn’t have seen any of the ads or other stuff most of the comments can’t seem to figure out how to avoid.
I've read hundreds of papers in my mathematics career, and they – good and bad – almost always blend into eachother and turn into a diffuse fog in my memory, where they're identified by "that good one by Johnson-something-I-think.. no the 90s one I think".
There are very few exceptions. Kac's drum paper is one. It's so nicely written!
Selecting different materials would not change much. Call the frequencies \lambda_1, \lambda_2, \lambda_3...
You can prove that changing the material has no effect on the relative frequencies: \lambda_2 / \lambda_1, \lambda_3 / \lambda_1, etc. are completely independent of the material.
The shape is the determining factor; changing the materials (and hence the wave speed) just dilates the whole spectrum.
There's actually a "ring-out" slider and a "mallet" width slider under the drum already.
Ring out controls how fast the higher modes decay (basically stiff vs soft material), The mallet width controls how many modes a strike can even reach, since a real mallet can't drive the high frequency ones very hard.
No labeled presets like "wood" or "metal" though, just raw sliders. Would be a fun addition if someone wants to map a few physically sensible combos to buttons. PRs Welcome!
The tone is kind of snippy. It refuses to play when there would be numerical artifacts ("there would be numbers, and they would be wrong") and if your drawn shape self-intesects it complaint rather than just giving a reasonable answer with a warning (minimum crossing width, separate bodies).
Overall a cool tool, but pretty annoying. I point it out not really to criticize this project, but because I see a trend in software that has a holier-than-thou sort of paternalistic tone. LLMs are obviously rife with this, but I also see interfaces from some humans that give me the vibe of a snooty Parisian waiter.
very nice!
but having the "this space for rent" , space
is the thing that realy says that it's someone doing there thing, everything is cool, no worrys, here play with a drum, and you knid of know that whoever might go in that space will be truely random, and interesting to some further subset of those that jump at an internet drum thing.
thanks!
The title alone sounds like this would be interesting, but I'll never know if it is because it has a trackers popup listing thousands of "partners" and a load of "legitimate interest" boxes ticked by default. This is Daily Mail level stuff, immediate back button for me.
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Yeah, I'm no GDPR expert but it seems completely unreasonable that the "legitimate interest" numbers add upp to 2825. Even though there's probably some overlap, the biggest category is "Measure advertising performance (695 partners included)".
How does this dialogue help me control who gets my data or how it will be used?
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This meme is becoming extremely tiresome. This thing is cool, which should be enough. If you don't find it cool you can just click the next thing. As someone who's spent lots of AI time I still find this impressive.
Let's see your version, since it's so easy to prompt one up.
I didn't even know that was a meme. I have vibe coded various projects too, but I find the overzealous monetization very much off-putting. This, paired with the Opus writing all over the place. Seems more like grifting than an actual interest in the topic.
https://eigendrum.com/#s=__Ap66fz1em9-NXp7_6a6-0AJu1AAiTv6gK...
A ruder variation of that is "dat slaat als een … op een drumstel", or "that hits like a … on a drum set".
For some reason I felt like sharing this trivia.
Q: Generating higher quality sounds with a specified duration (e.g. within a 300ms margin) -- is it possible with your approach, is it hard, how would you go about that?
I'm asking because a few years back I had an idea for a breathwork/meditation app that would allow you to connect / control the breath duration using a gong sound. Example pattern: 4s in, 4s wait, 8-10s out. Next: use a feedback loop with the real user breathing pattern, slowly extend towards the goal.
Ended up with scaling it down to a "dot to stare at" + basic gong, because I realised how ridiculously chromatically complex the sound is. (my approach was to synthesise an envelope with a shape determined by time -- pity the fool who thought it was easy or even made sense!)
https://untested.sonnet.io/notes/projects-and-apps-i-built-f...
I got +100k people visiting it and still a couple dozen daily users running a 5+ min session, so I'm happy with it. But, the itch is still there, so I'd love to revisit my old nemesis so to speak :)
Also, if you want to chat about this, hit me up sonnet.io/posts/hi !
It would be interesting if you could simulate and then print (or laser cut) your own instrument on demand.
Also you can draw your own drums! What! That's so cool
thinking about it, each drum here would have totally different ideal scales to the others.
this is cool.
The video shows this tool, which has a 3D harmony/dissonance explorer, which can be used as a makeshift musical insturment.
https://aatishb.com/dissonance/
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It’s sad though that such a non-corporate site has such nasty ads though.
It does for me. But I do use an ad blocker (Wipr 2).
have you seen https://differentinstruments.com/ ?
There are very few exceptions. Kac's drum paper is one. It's so nicely written!
You can prove that changing the material has no effect on the relative frequencies: \lambda_2 / \lambda_1, \lambda_3 / \lambda_1, etc. are completely independent of the material.
The shape is the determining factor; changing the materials (and hence the wave speed) just dilates the whole spectrum.
Ring out controls how fast the higher modes decay (basically stiff vs soft material), The mallet width controls how many modes a strike can even reach, since a real mallet can't drive the high frequency ones very hard.
No labeled presets like "wood" or "metal" though, just raw sliders. Would be a fun addition if someone wants to map a few physically sensible combos to buttons. PRs Welcome!
I am genuinely curious, how?
Overall a cool tool, but pretty annoying. I point it out not really to criticize this project, but because I see a trend in software that has a holier-than-thou sort of paternalistic tone. LLMs are obviously rife with this, but I also see interfaces from some humans that give me the vibe of a snooty Parisian waiter.
If you find it interesting, a star on the GitHub repo helps a lot.
And don't forget to follow me on github, I build cool stuff!
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49305250
What you have now is ridiculous.
Let's see your version, since it's so easy to prompt one up.
https://github.com/BaselAshraf81/eigendrum/commit/733a7a08b2...
Edit: Seems the advertising is removed now.