Early Humans Likely Ate Carbs and Sugary Foods

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20 points | by gmays 2 hours ago

7 comments

  • miika 0 minutes ago
    It’s interesting. Human baby is in ketosis when born, breast feeding maintains it. There is no essential carb.. Switching to ketogenic diet is cure for many health issues.

    Then again, I know fruitarian who runs ultramarathons. He eats only sugar, so clearly human body can run on two different fuels very well.

    Maybe we shouldn’t mix them but choose just the other? Carbs or fat. It would make sense that if there are two paths to get energy from eating, the system may not run optimally if you keep feeding both at the same time?

  • louiereederson 1 hour ago
    If you’re constantly moving sugar is a necessity for maintaining glycogen. There’s nothing inherently wrong with any food type, it’s all about context.
    • steve_adams_86 54 minutes ago
      Kind of; humans do adapt remarkably well to low-glucose diets, and we can produce glycogen without sugary inputs via gluconeogenesis. They do make it much easier, though.
  • slicktux 58 minutes ago
    There’s many theories but one that I learned was that women and children provides the bulk of the calories for Early Humans. While the men went out and hunted for meat they also relied on the fruit harvested by the women and children. That would give them the energy necessary for trekking and hunting.
    • pfdietz 47 minutes ago
      > fruit harvested

      Also tubers.

    • smellsfruity 42 minutes ago
      So we’re expected to believe each man is carry a basket of rapidly deteriorating fruit (and tubers).

      Or a knapsack of dried fatty meat with a fairly indefinite shelf life.

  • jhoechtl 14 minutes ago
    Today we know sugar was a key ingredient for brain development in humans, not just proteins because of eating meat.
  • dboreham 1 hour ago
    I don't think this is new. The idea always was that proto-humans had to live in an environment rich with energy dense food (fruit) prior to growing a brain large enough to figure out how to make barbeque. Otherwise you never get to the barbeque capable brain. The whole point of making fire and therefore consuming cooked meat is that now you can migrate to places that don't have abundant sources of energy dense food.
    • conductr 33 minutes ago
      My interpretation was similar. The carb-sugar diet was never a highlight because it was a given. The article talks about primates that have high carb-sugar diets but doesn't explain why their brains remain so small compared to humans. Maybe they will eventually evolve? Maybe cooked meat / dense protein is the X factor? If so, that takes back to the beginning and highlights protein. It seems reasonable the combination of the two would be important. Protein enables muscle development, human evolution made us exceptionally well-suited for long-distance and endurance travel compared to all other living primates. This further improves are ability to forage and is just an evolutionary winning combination.

      My curiosity leads me more towards, are their other primates that had similar / convergent evolution that independently discovered dense protein sources? Is homo sapien really just a path of singular linear "march of progress" evolution? Were there other marches of progress from other primates or any other species that we competed against or merged with? Those kind of questions become more interesting once you realize the diet combination that creates big brains

      • fsckboy 29 minutes ago
        >about primates that have high carb-sugar diets but doesn't explain why their brains remain so small compared to humans. Maybe they will eventually evolve?

        if they have abundant sources of carb-sugar, there would be no selection pressure to evolve in a particular direction.

        • conductr 17 minutes ago
          Don't most evolutionary traits/changes come at times of restrictions? I don't think many traits are developed during times of abundance, it's when there is a shortage and they have to seek out something else; like protein. Or, sometimes it's just natural competition for the share of the abundance. If there where a big brain out competing you for your carbs, you might have to reconsider your dietary options and make substitutes/changes that would have evolutionary implications.
    • smellsfruity 38 minutes ago
      Why is it assumed that learning to cooking animals is a necessary hurdle?

      When we’re capable of eating animals raw. And bugs and worms etc.

      Whereas in order to consume a wider variety of plants, cooking and other more complex perpetrations are absolutely necessary.

      • margalabargala 0 minutes ago
        Much like today, early humans were indeed capable of eating meat raw.

        Also much like today, early humans did not do so if there was a way to cook it.

      • conductr 28 minutes ago
        Have to consider meat digestion from a net calorie perspective. Eating raw meat is possible sure. But once you get to dense protein meats like a red meat, your body expends a lot of calories in the act of digesting it raw. Cooking it is like a pre-digestion step and allows your body to digest it with less energy expenditure.

        It also probably was helpful for other reasons. You could store cooked meat easier/longer without refrigeration or kill off some of the bacteria and such making it healthier.

      • defrost 31 minutes ago
        If you're quite finished parroting RFK Jr pro-parasitic brain worm talking points not even aboriginal Australians ate their fish and meat raw.

        * https://warndu.com/blogs/blog/traditional-aboriginal-food

        • smellsfruity 29 minutes ago
          And we know that because Australian Aborigines have a written history dating back 90,000 (or whatever the number is this week) years.
          • SamoyedFurFluff 24 minutes ago
            Actually yeah Australian aborigines have a famously rigorous oral history.
          • defrost 27 minutes ago
            Midden piles.
            • smellsfruity 21 minutes ago
              Which part of my first comment isn’t factually correct?
              • defrost 18 minutes ago
                The implication that because humans are "capable of eating animals raw" they therefore must do a lot of that (isolated idiots aside).
    • pfdietz 45 minutes ago
      Cooking also increases the energy available from plant matter, particularly starchy tubers.
  • kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 20 minutes ago
    What a coincidence, so do I
  • accountrequired 29 minutes ago
    Sugar is life. Saccharides FTW!!! vrooooooooooooooooomm