24 comments

  • GloriousCow 28 minutes ago
    Hi, thanks for checking out MartyPC. I'm the developer if there are any questions.
  • tensor 2 hours ago
    One of the amazing things about this project is that the author built physical harnesses for real early CPUs so that he could build test suites against the real hardware and ensure the emulation is 100% correct, down to every timing and quirk of the original hardware.
  • wiz21c 5 hours ago
    besides the fact that it was written in rust, rust happens to be a really nice language to write emulators, you don't have to think much about threading and not much abut memory management, rust makes that easy => you can concentrate on your pixels. Moreover LLM grasp it very well so that you can get a bit more spare time for your emulator-side-project.

    It was very long since I wrote any sort of C++ and using rust was pretty refreshing.

    Second "besides": marty's PC may not have a lot of breadth in terms of supported hardware, but it gets the accuracy totally right. It's a very special kind of achievement.

    (I'm not a rust fanboy :-) I just appreciate the language for writing my emulator)

  • pjmlp 11 hours ago
    Adlib support! At least someone else remembers it wasn't only Soundblaster.
    • anonzzzies 8 hours ago
      All my friends had Soundblasters; I had a self soldered Covox. Fun times.
      • abrookewood 6 hours ago
        Whaaat?? Do tell more!
        • anonzzzies 6 hours ago
          For not well off geeks you could just solder a bunch of resistors together and get vastly better sound than from the crappy PC speaker and there were games that supported it and I wrote some software for it (which unfortunately is gone I think). I had a lot of just having this on the pc in the house.

          https://github.com/necroware/silly-sound-bastard

        • sjsdaiuasgdia 5 hours ago
          [dead]
    • _flux 7 hours ago
      But Soundblaster came with Adlib, so surely complete support for SB should mean Adlib support as well.. ?
      • pjmlp 6 hours ago
        Yeah and eventually Adlib was gone.

        From Wikipedia,

        "Not long after its introduction, Creative Labs introduced its competing Sound Blaster card. The Sound Blaster was fully compatible with AdLib's hardware, and it also implemented two key features absent from the AdLib: a PCM audio channel and a game port. With additional features and better marketing, the Sound Blaster quickly overshadowed AdLib as the de facto standard in PC gaming audio. AdLib's slow response, the AdLib Gold, did not sell well enough to sustain the company."

      • GloriousCow 41 minutes ago
        I haven't implemented the Soundblaster card yet, although it's quite high on my list of things to do.
  • rrr_oh_man 11 hours ago
    Doesn't seem to support non-QWERTY keboards :(
    • GloriousCow 39 minutes ago
      I've built out a full keyboard-remapping system, to support any keyboard layout. I need help building these files.

      Are you using DVORAK? If you are willing to help, please open a Github issue with some info about your keyboard, and I'll build support for it.

    • teiferer 10 hours ago
      But it's written in Rust! Who cares about non-qwerty!

      /s

  • ranger_danger 12 hours ago
    Ironically, and unfortunately, this doesn't actually emulate the FM Towns Marty (or even the regular FM Towns PC) like I assumed it would.
  • Dwedit 13 hours ago
    Mysteriously, backslash has been mapped to backspace for some reason.
    • GloriousCow 37 minutes ago
      What keyboard layout are you using? I can't reproduce on a US layout.
    • datakan 6 hours ago
      I don't think Backspace as a key was standard internationally until 1994. Apple still doesn't use it, just Delete.
      • Dwedit 4 hours ago
        This is about early IBM PCs, not apple computers. And the non-working key is the Backslash key \ , not the backspace key.
    • unixhero 12 hours ago
      Old terminals had this shenanigans going on too. Backspace was not backspace and so on
  • benj111 5 hours ago
    I assume it's called MartyPC because it Marty McFlies?
  • JMiao 12 hours ago
    probably in the minority but i want the screeching and grumbling hard disk sounds
  • chvid 12 hours ago
    Almost usable on an iPhone.
    • GloriousCow 26 minutes ago
      What would you say is missing or not working well?
    • kuschkufan 1 hour ago
      I used to have a phone like that.
  • throwaway5727 8 hours ago
    This comment is itself a meta comment but here we go I guess...How is it possible that half the comments in this thread are about the title itself? It’s not even a made-up title, it’s taken straight from the project’s README...I keep seeing people complaining almost aggressively that others are touting Rust as a useful tool (which, to me personally, it certainly is). Does someone have a financial stake in opposing Rust’s development, or what?
    • GloriousCow 31 minutes ago
      When I started writing MartyPC over four years ago, writing an emulator in Rust was still somewhat novel. The development of the 'egui' immediate-mode graphics framework made it possible to make one with an advanced interactive debugger.

      By mentioning Rust people have been able to more easily find MartyPC as an example of how (or how not to) write an emulator in Rust.

      Perhaps the tag as outlived its usefulness, especially if people find it pompous or something. I'm not trying to be Rust cultist, I swear.

    • tonyedgecombe 6 hours ago
      I suppose it makes a change from complaining that the post was written by an LLM.
      • braiamp 5 hours ago
        But if it's written in rust and with llm then they both implode and we get really insightful comments
    • saiditmate 7 hours ago
      [flagged]
      • taneq 6 hours ago
        > non-human bots

        I’m amused by the implication of human bots.

      • dmd 5 hours ago
        No, it's being downvoted because (a) who cares and (b) you wrote a wall of text that makes you look like you have schizophrenia.
      • 13415 7 hours ago
        Rust's user community is toxic and unbearable. That's enough to explain the widespread resentment against it. Their fanboys are annoying. CommonLisp used to have a similar community problem.
        • caspper69 4 hours ago
          I write Rust code. I don’t mind it. But the truth is, I use very little of the language.

          I visit the Discord, and I see all the crazy overcomplicated shit these people are writing.

          If I had to try and make heads or tails of some of that shit I’d go crazy.

          I actually think some of it is actual trolling by Rust itself.

          And yes, the people are toxic. It’s like they really believe C and C++ and everyone else did literally everything wrong. And some of their justifications are seriously weak sauce.

          And remember, I like Rust. At least the parts I use. But it’s easily going to eclipse C++ in complexity if it continues the way it has been operating.

      • suddenlybananas 4 hours ago
        >murderous ways

        What?

  • BobMcBob 12 hours ago
    Yet another avenue to play EGATREK in a browser. For that, its work it.
    • unixhero 12 hours ago
      What's great about Egatrek?
    • EvanAnderson 10 hours ago
      Oh, holy crap. I haven't thought about EGATREK in at least 30 years. I'm going to go dig it up right now. Thanks for causing me to recall that memory!
  • gaoheyang 8 hours ago
    nice
  • hncsiocp9x 3 hours ago
    [dead]
  • szundi 13 hours ago
    Why never seeing a title “written by C” or Java or js
    • pigeons 13 hours ago
      "Hax – a minimalist, terminal-native coding agent written in C" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49273175

      but I see your point.

    • fukaiall 6 hours ago
      I believe a true engineer should love problems not only languages. But it seems like majority of Rust devs only love the language and try to convert all the problems into Rust problems.

      If you have problems in C/C++? Write Rust.

      If you have problems in Python? Use Rust.

      If you have an issue with your product? Rewrite it in Rust.

      Is your company in pinch? Launch a new product in Rust.

      If you burn your finger while you’re cooking? Write Rust.

      If you have a mental problem? Read a Rust book.

      You don’t have a girl friend? You have Rust next to you.

      If you hate yourself? Writing Rust will solve your life problems.

    • teiferer 10 hours ago
      Because their following is not cult-based.

      (To clarify: I like Rust. I use it every day. But this is going too far.)

    • pjmlp 12 hours ago
      Because they predate HN, and aren't hip languages any longer.

      There was a time for CoffeeScript, PureScript, Elm, Ruby and whatever else you can think of.

      Naturally Lisp has to have monthly entries.

      /s

    • imhoguy 12 hours ago
      Because nowadays "written in Rust" means "written by AI", as Java or C are not so sexy for LLMs /s
    • tenox7 13 hours ago
      The main feature of apps written in Rust is that they are written in Rust.
      • dosisking 12 hours ago
        "It's not a feature, it's a bug"
      • fortran77 12 hours ago
        I flag all these “written in Rust” posts.
        • globalnode 11 hours ago
          its just ppl trying to be different from their boring parents. wish i had enough karma to flag them too but i keep getting downvoted into oblivion for making fun of written in rust posts
  • azwaterdamagere 11 hours ago
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  • rvz 9 hours ago
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  • globalnode 11 hours ago
    the other week i wrote a program in python, and ive been thinking of upgrading my cpp knowledge from v11, wish me luck
  • tonyhart7 10 hours ago
    how to use this fossil computer era ????? I cant type shhiiii
  • hnlmorg 11 hours ago
    Early PCs weren’t written in Rust.
    • queenkjuul 10 hours ago
      Early PCs were made of steel which can rust
    • pjmlp 11 hours ago
      In C neither, despite urban myths.
      • hnlmorg 10 hours ago
        Is that something people believe? I can’t say that’s a myth I’ve ever heard.
        • pjmlp 9 hours ago
          Yep, before UNIX and C there were no systems programming languages, and after getting the clay tablets from UNIX and C, all civilisation was built upon them. /s

          At least when you spend long time around some programming circles.

          • avadodin 9 hours ago
            computer, remove the extraneous slash es from the statement.
            • pjmlp 9 hours ago
              "I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that"
  • Kudos 11 hours ago
    Not specific to this project, but nowadays when I see "written in rust" I hear "written by Claude".
    • GloriousCow 36 minutes ago
      When I started this emulator four years ago, this was the first PC emulator written in Rust so it was novel.

      I've heard the comments here loud and clear :) You all don't think Rust is novel anymore and I should lose that bit.

    • binaryturtle 10 hours ago
      "cross-platform" and Rust, as advertised in the current title/link label, is incompatible for sure. Can't get that to run on my older OS X machine nor my Amiga. :)
  • teiferer 10 hours ago
    What does the "written in Rust" contribute to the title, exactly?