The mechanics of the Nepali flash flood

(economist.com)

64 points | by vinni2 7 hours ago

8 comments

  • pm2222 3 hours ago
    https://apnews.com/article/climate-change-nepal-tibet-glacie...

    CCTV footage is there. Horrific scene. When you see it coming at you it’s already too late.

    • kulahan 1 hour ago
      It's awful to see dozens of people running and knowing they're all gone. It wasn't even close. They were so small compared to that absolute FORCE.
      • IG_Semmelweiss 18 minutes ago
        Is it correct to say that the video looks far worse than it actually is ?

        As in, the dust/mud particles sprayed & floating in the air do not have the force to do harm beyond vision or breathing impairment, similar to the dust from a collapsing building, or the lead shockwave of a nuclear bomb detonation.

        Of course, it looks terrible, and certainly somethingbut its not a reason to perish as long as you can stay away from the following water wall and mud current that does strike sometime after.

      • 1attice 1 hour ago
        This is true, and, relatedly, is the feeling I have about all of climate change. By the numbers, it won't be close.

        Of course, this little preview is itself anthropogenic. This horrific disaster is the thinnest tendril of the monster we have unleashed.

        • kulahan 1 hour ago
          Both figuratively and literally, this experience was the tip of the iceberg. Terrifying. People might think I'm crazy, but I'm choosing my retirement location 100% based on resistance to climate change. Local water, too much humidity for massive fires, too cold for insane heatwaves... you get it.
          • ferguess_k 56 minutes ago
            Which places have you found? I'm in Canada and figured most of the places are going to suffer more rain falling in the next decades.
          • blondie9x 32 minutes ago
            Honestly there is no safe haven while humans over-consume continue to waste in the chase of excess. We have seen in the last few years all the supposed climate safe areas get hit hard.

            https://www.npr.org/2024/10/09/nx-s1-5137024/climate-haven-h...

            • IG_Semmelweiss 25 minutes ago
              birth rates are falling off the cliff in all developed nations, most are below replacement rate already
        • sandeepkd 35 minutes ago
          I do not know if I would consider stopping the climate change as a solution for all such events.

          Watching the video makes you realize how small you are in front of the nature. It feels painful to even watch it but its an eyeopener at the same time. Its a misconception to think that the climate would always remain same, nature is an constantly moving/changing entity. What might be perceived as destruction is also the mechanism how creation of life or life like conditions happened in the first place. Just makes me feel like appreciating the day even more.

    • blondie9x 34 minutes ago
      I don't understand why the push so hard on AI and the greenwashing / misleading information about its impact on the natural world.
  • glimshe 2 hours ago
    I haven't yet been able to properly internalize the horror of this scene. Maybe because we're exposed to so many images from disaster and action movies/videogames, I got somewhat desensitized to the "graphics", so to speak. It's like my brain is denial.

    At the same time, I know this is real and a tragedy in an unimaginable scale. Every "little walking figure" is a full human being with dreams, fears and a rich life story.

    I'm afraid that at one point it will just hit me super hard.

    • debo_ 1 hour ago
      About 18 years ago, some guy at work was laughing at a video of someone being blown to pieces by an explosive device. People kept walking by his desk and laughing, I suppose because it looked so cartoonish that it felt more like looney tunes than real life.

      As an experiment, I showed the same video to my 85-year old grandmother, and she cried out in horror and prayed for the people in the video for a solid hour afterwards.

      • Fricken 24 minutes ago
        I go around with the general awareness that about 200k people die every day. I know that disasters and tragedies happen around the world on a regular basis. I know that cameras are nearly ubiquitous even in the developing world, so there is a good chance that any sensational event will be recorded and posted on the internet. Armed with these priors it's not a huge surprise or shock to me. It is still impressive, however.
    • bamboozled 49 minutes ago
      What scares me about climate change is how frequent these “little figures” are getting wrecked.

      In Japan we have had these sudden flood events this year, people just die as their cars are washed away.

      Never in my life have I considered checking the weather forecast and flood watch warnings almost every time I get in the car but I do this year.

      We have really fucked the climate and this is just the beginning.

    • verdverm 1 hour ago
      Tragedy happens every day, this is likely one of those freak events we cannot do anything about. Millions of people die from hunger and malnutrician every year. Perhaps we could focus our energies on that were it not for the media (us by proxy) that prefers the edgier stuff, since we've desensitized ourselves and seek that fix with something new
  • decasia 2 hours ago
    The CCTV footage was one of the most heartbreaking things I have seen on the internet lately.

    It makes me think a bit of the Johnstown flood from 1889:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnstown_Flood#/media/File:Th...

  • blondie9x 15 minutes ago
    Really helpful on navigating what happened. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZvUQ7aoehw
  • tintor 1 hour ago
    Is Switzerland exposed to similar risk, given the amount of glaciers?
    • bamboozled 51 minutes ago
      Yes, but apparently they monitor the glaciers stability / Temperature closely and evacuate required
  • croisillon 2 hours ago
  • yeah879846 3 hours ago
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  • shreya1999 1 hour ago
    Need of the hour is AI for climate change.