OpenBSD Stories: Strange Medieval Devices

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72 points | by zdw 3 days ago

8 comments

  • elcritch 7 hours ago
    > SMD disks were first using 11" platters, later 8"; and with a nominal speed of 3600 rpm, thus 60 rotations per second (although Fujitsu later deviated from the norm and had a few drives spinning even faster, at 3961rpm), it took a noticeable amount of power to spin these disks up (and a smaller one to keep them spinning, which one would notice when receiving the bill from the electricity company).

    I wouldn't mind having a few of these to act as backup flywheel batteries. Maybe if civilization crashes these will make a comeback as dual use power & data storage devices. ;)

  • fodkodrasz 6 hours ago
    I wonder how NetBSD would work with the hardware, if the mentioned bugs were already fixed there maybe?

    NetBSD has wide old/obscure platform, with a wider community using it somewhat more actively on those.

  • natas 8 hours ago
    I really like to see those old dmesgs, quite amazing work supporting this in OpenBSD (at the time)
  • 1over137 7 hours ago
    This page looks quite simple, just plain text and a few photos. why does it render so tiny on an iPhone then?
    • andai 2 hours ago
      It's missing

         <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1">
      
      Not sure why we need to add that but mobile sites look like ass without it.

      (Or more precisely, not sure why "make the site look like ass" was chosen as the default, and making it look good is opt-in!)

      • lmz 1 hour ago
        Because it's assumed that it's for desktop. The first iPhone demo had (if I recall correctly) the browser zoom into the NYT website. Which can work well.

        I'd rather this than what I often see nowadays: sites with fixed width tables that overflow out of the mobile viewport with no way to view the info.

    • assimpleaspossi 3 hours ago
      The site is using an obsolete version of XHTML. So it's probably using out of date other things, too, and not targeting phones.

      EDIT: I just checked. There are 77 HTML errors and warnings alone.

    • MrVandemar 7 hours ago
      Because browsers, especially phone browsers, are broken.

      A lot of older websites will look like this on a phone, because they don't have the viewport meta tag, which wasn't a thing until mobile phones became sophisticated web browsers.

      Firefox reader mode will probably render it OK.

      • winrid 6 hours ago
        Chrome reader mode works fine too
  • kev009 5 hours ago
    Another oddly interesting interface related to SMD was IPI. Sun used it for a bit as their high end disks.
  • bitwize 8 hours ago
    The OpenBSD maintainers are heroes for keeping hardware like this running. This is about the time Greg KH might say "yeah, there are like five of these left, zero in actual production, and the code to support them is gumming up the LLMs. I'm just going to take it out of the kernel."
    • justin66 21 minutes ago
      > the code to support them is gumming up the LLMs. I'm just going to take it out of the kernel

      Ouch.

    • jmclnx 5 minutes ago
      Very True, and one thing people forget, we need to keep the ability to read these old devices.

      I was a operator (now admin) on a few minis in the early 80s that had these drives. The drive pack on the ones we had were removable and we used 256MB packs.

      We would backup data from one drive to another on third shift, at the same time to reel tapes. The reel tapes back then where used for long term backup off site, the drives for short term on site. But who knows how many of these packs are out there just sitting around waiting to be read :)

    • BlackRabbit1 4 hours ago
      I'd more bet that they are the critical infrastructure pillar everyone is scared to replace in a super important system, lol.

      Maybe one of it saves the earth rotation control algorithm which the Earth Rotation Service requires for shooting their hidden ion cannons to keep it spinning.

  • NooneAtAll3 8 hours ago
    hug of death
  • yuxinking 3 hours ago
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