3 comments

  • shevy-java 59 minutes ago
    So do we finally have one unified theory or are we still none the wiser?
    • swiftcoder 44 minutes ago
      From the article: "The result does not unite quantum mechanics and gravity, nor does it show that gravity itself is quantum".

      I must say, it's actually quite refreshing to read an article about a science topic that conveys the caveats and limitations of the study. Far too many of these studies get filtered through the news outlet hype-machine

    • rhdunn 40 minutes ago
      The article says that this proves that Einstein's equivalence principle (resulting in relativity) holds in this test of a falling quantum particle (where gravity results in a phase shift in the quantum state).

      It doesn't show/prove how general relativity and quantum mechanics interact.

      NOTE: The Dirac equation and Quantum Electro Dynamics (QED) unify quantum mechanics and special relativity (non-accelerating frames of reference).

      So the remaining piece is either to extend QED/QCD to accelerating frames of reference or to quantize general relativity. That would likely predict the phase shift observed in this experiment.

      • pdonis 5 minutes ago
        > The Dirac equation and Quantum Electro Dynamics (QED) unify quantum mechanics and special relativity

        And more generally the Standard Model, which includes the weak and strong interactions. The SM is a quantum field theory, which, as you say, unifies QM and SR.

        > (non-accelerating frames of reference).

        No, SR and QFT are not limited to non-accelerating frames. They are limited to small enough regions of spacetime that spacetime curvature is negligible. This experiment is an illustration of that: it compares an accelerated atom with a free-falling atom to show the phase shift between them, and the lab frame in which it is done is accelerated--but the SM and SR work just fine. But the experiment does not show any effects of spacetime curvature.

        > the remaining piece is either to extend QED/QCD to accelerating frames of reference

        No, that's already done. See above.

        > or to quantize general relativity.

        That's the big missing piece, yes. We know how to write the QFT of a massless spin-2 field (which is our naive expectation of what a QFT for gravity would look like), and we know that the classical limit of that QFT is the classical GR we have now. But we know that QFT has to be just an effective theory, just like the Standard Model; it can't be the final answer.

        > That would likely predict the phase shift observed in this experiment.

        The theories we already have (Standard Model + the equivalence principle are all we actually need) are sufficient to predict that. Of course any more comprehensive theory will have to reproduce that prediction, yes.

  • hammock 2 days ago
    There is a GREAT, accessible video about this experiment here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfjnTJos_no

    • dang 1 hour ago
      Thanks! We'll put that link in the toptext as well.
  • ck2 31 minutes ago
    so many great PBS Space Time on this concept

    * https://www.youtube.com/@pbsspacetime/search?query=graviton