Eating Fruit Skins

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37 points | by surprisetalk 3 days ago

28 comments

  • bastawhiz 1 hour ago
    > Alex rightly points out that apple seeds do contain cyanide. Turns out, it’s not a huge risk for normal apple consumption.

    You don't have to eat them. There's no benefit to eating them. They don't taste good. They provide a negligible amount of nutrition, if any, and harm you very mildly. The stem of an apple is edible, but for what? A gram of extra fiber after you manage to gnaw through it?

    You can eat banana peels, but you probably wouldn't want to. It's a terrible texture and flavor. They decompose well, so there's no meaningful environmental benefit. Yes, they have nutrients. You can eat a second piece of fruit instead.

    And this is not universally good advice. The seeds, leaves, and stem of the pawpaw is filled with toxins—enough that folks have died from it.

    I don't think the author is trying to make a point, but rather to show that we do things because we were told them. But it's important to also realize that the cultural reasons are sometimes backed up with hard-earned lessons or to save us from having to learn for ourselves that watermelon rind isn't pleasant to eat without preparing it in other ways.

    • wdrw 1 hour ago
      As a person who always eats the whole apple, stem and all (have done so for years), I'll object to your "apple seeds do not taste good" statement - tastes differ, to me they are delicious, certainly on par with other "normally edible" seeds like sunflower seeds! Of course I wouldn't eat them in any great quantity because of the poison issue.
    • PeterStuer 1 hour ago
      Most of the insecticide sprays are on the skin. You can eat the seeds, maybe don't bite them as they taste nasty. Eating the core is not the most pleasant part, and the top and bottom might be be most difficult to rinse the sprays from.
    • edent 53 minutes ago
      Banana peels are delicious if cooked correctly. You can make a surprisingly tasty "facon" with them.
      • bastawhiz 17 minutes ago
        I'm sure you could prepare almost anything to taste great. You can do whatever you think you'd enjoy. My point isn't to discourage you from doing it. If you want to eat apple stems or orange peels or horse chestnuts, knock yourself out. My point is that it's probably not smart to do so unless you know what you're doing and have a good reason to.
      • kubafu 15 minutes ago
        Please tell us more! What do you mean by correctly?
  • RALaBarge 1 hour ago
    I ate Kiwis for years before someone told me most people DO NOT eat the skins. I looked at my bag of kiwis, and the even the damn monkey mascot was holding a spoon...mocking me...
    • egeozcan 54 minutes ago
      Also eating skins turns kiwis from a fruit you have to spend time to preprocess (halve + grab spoon) to an immediate snack.

      This may sound insignificant to many but for the extremely lazy like me, this is the difference between going to waste and being consumed for many fruits.

    • nkrisc 1 hour ago
      Don’t worry, my kids eat the skin too. I guess we forgot to tell them not to and they didn’t find it unpleasant. I tried a bite for my own edification and I did not find it pleasant.

      That said, I usually eat peanuts with the shell and all. Though don’t eat too many that way, the shells are definitely not getting digested, so chew well. Also there is probably a higher chance of dirt or other stuff you don’t want to eat being on the shell, but I don’t usually eat peanuts anyway so never been a problem for me.

      • metadat 0 minutes ago
        It depends on the variety, some kiwi skins are tick and hairy, while others exteriors are thin and smooth.
    • Modified3019 58 minutes ago
      When I wash kiwis I rub the hairs off, and then cut them into thick slices, leaving the skin on. Trying to skin or eat them with a spoon is just a pain, and I don’t find the skin unpleasant.

      I’ve seen a lot of people also just wash/rub the hairs off and bite straight into them, though I find this can make a mess if they are too soft.

      Hardy kiwis are also eaten whole, like a berry.

    • boothby 38 minutes ago
      I enjoy the tickly sensation of a fuzzy kiwi but immensely dislike the crunch of croutons. People are weird.
  • dvh 19 minutes ago
    I had a college who would meticulously cut that black thing at the bottom of the apple and also quite a bit of actual apple flesh, like 1cm or even more around it. When I asked him why he cut so much, he said that the black thing is remnant of apple flower and when apple tree is in the bloom it is the most sensitive so they apply most pesticides then and the concentration is highest around that black part. By cutting it away with little bit of flesh he removes most of the pesticides that are in the apple. It didn't help, few years later he died of cancer.
    • CGMthrowaway 0 minutes ago
      Came here to say this.. lots of fruit skins are very edible (kiwis etc), but they are covered with pesticides. All conventional fruits are.

      If you look at the "Dirty Dozen" vs. "Clean Fifteen" lists of fruits/veggies that come out every year, you'll notice that the Cleanest Fruits are almost always ones that grow with a thick skin or covering- pineapple, avocado, corn, (shelled) peas, watermelon, mango..

      And the Dirty ones are with a thin/no skin- greens, stone fruit, blackberries, strawberries, apples, pears etc.

      The "Clean" fruits aren't any cleaner, they just have less on the actual inside fruit that they expect you to eat. If you eat the skin of conventional "Clean Fifteen" fruits you might as well be eating a Dirty Dozen.

  • motionlessveloc 23 hours ago
    Grapes are commonly peeled in Japan, and people will look at you strangely if you eat them skin on. However, Japanese grapes are huge and have a thick, astringent skin that peels off easily.

    Likewise, when Japanese people go overseas and start peeling grapes, people look at them strangely. Eventually they figure out that Western grapes are small, hard to peel and the skins are thin and nearly tasteless, so they adopt our barbarian habits too.

    Updated to add: Japanese grapes like Kyoho are actually hybrid cultivars of Western grapes (Vitis vinifera) and Concord grapes (Vitis labrusca), which is why they're so different.

    • cantalopes 49 minutes ago
      That's crazy, theres tons of taste in grape skin
    • sho_hn 23 hours ago
      I've had this conversation and the way I explained it is that our grapes are closer to the boba in bubble tea. It's not quite right (they don't pop quite as much) and boba isn't Japanese, but it gets the point across.
      • bbg2401 18 hours ago
        Whose grapes are you likening to boba? I’m struggling with the comparison - even a loose one.

        Is there a grape variety I’m entirely ignorant of?

        • sho_hn 17 hours ago
          Like my parent said, the grapes in East Asia are thick-skinned, and people either peel them or suck out their flesh. The ones sold in Europe are very thin-skinned, and peeling is largely impractical. I'm relating the latter to boba.
    • Tade0 23 hours ago
      My dad would peel the skin of every fruit, including grapes, which is how I learned to do it.
      • embedding-shape 22 hours ago
        Are you/your dad Japanese? I feel like we're missing most of the context here.
    • ButlerianJihad 5 hours ago
      I live near a Korean pan-Asian convenience store, and I've been enjoy the variety of beverages and ramen available there. Oceania today exports foods with significant influence by Italian cuisine, in particular.

      There are some fruit drinks which contain whole fruit, like green grapes. It's sort of on the spectrum if you imagine canned grapes, which come in a "light syrup" but the beverage is a thinned-out version of that, not tart or sugary like American grape juice.

      But you pour the can out, and a couple of fresh grapes come out as well. I suppose they are peeled. I was a little disappointed when the pear juice didn't include sliced pears. But there are many more fruits to try!

      • asdfqwertzxcv 1 hour ago
        Yes I love those grape drinks! Very similar to thinned out canned fruit cocktail syrup/fruits.
    • NoImmatureAdHom 22 hours ago
      Fun fact: a lot of people think artificial grape flavoring doesn't taste like grapes. And that the "Welch's concord grape jam" variety of jams is artificially flavored.

      Nope, that's just what some grapes taste like. There's a Korean variety, and Concord at least. Wiki says it's this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitis_labrusca

  • jeltz 17 minutes ago
    I eat whole cherries, I am too lazy to spit out the pits do I swallow them whole. So far it has not been any issue at all and I eat a lot of cherries.
  • niemandhier 23 hours ago
    If you eat enough kiwis with skin, tarantula abdomens start to look like something tasty.

    I read that online, I trained myself to eat whole Kiwis and lo and behold: It is true!

    Our brains are so wonderfully strange!

    • nkrisc 1 hour ago
      People in the Amazon do eat tarantulas. They do roast them over an open flame first though to burn off the hairs as they can be harmful and irritating.
    • card_zero 1 hour ago
      • vorticalbox 1 hour ago
        That was interesting other than the golden orb weaver, all the other spider species noted as edible are tarantula.

        I assume because of their size relative to other species?

  • sho_hn 23 hours ago
    When I realized you can just eat kiwi with the skin on (if it's a very hairy one, brush them off under running water) and in no time it actually tastes better (adds some lovely contrast), it became my favorite zero-ennui fruit. It almost feels like a cheat code for something so tasty and large to require so little effort!

    Now, I never thought that kiwi skins are not edible of course, but I just assumed they're somehow unpleasant because everyone seems to peel or spoon them.

    • PeterStuer 1 hour ago
      You can shave the hairy ones.
    • kelipso 22 hours ago
      Haha literally ate kiwi with skin on for the first time today. It’s a lot nicer, you just rinse it and eat it!
    • jdkoeck 22 hours ago
      My favorite thing is leaving the skin and slicing them. Each slice has the perfect amount of skin and pulp, it’s crunchy, it’s heaven!
    • honr 17 hours ago
      I have never had a problem with kiwi skins (except when the kiwi is unripe; a natural mat with acids and possibly oxalate. NOPE).

      But are you claiming you eat the whole fruit, or you throw out the tiny thorn?

      • sho_hn 16 hours ago
        I usually throw out the tiny thorn.
    • NoImmatureAdHom 22 hours ago
      I like that you can take a bite directly through a kiwi
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  • RyJones 1 hour ago
    I eat the whole orange, grapefruit, lemon or lime.

    I like the bitter to offset the sweetness.

    • PeterStuer 1 hour ago
      Umless specifically indicated as untreated, citrus peel in soaked in very nasty antifungal waxes. In the EU they are specifucally warned about not fit for consumption.
    • hn_throwaway_99 1 hour ago
      At least now I know psychopaths walk among us.
  • mint5 46 minutes ago
    Cherimoya skins regularly consumed cause Parkinson’s like symptoms.

    Some fruit skins are okay, others are not.

    And some are only okay if home grown or organic bc the skin is otherwise loaded with pesticide residues

  • 0x457 39 minutes ago
    I almost always eat citrus skins after eat the citrus. With Pomelos its like second breakfast.
  • cush 23 hours ago
    People throw away so much strawberry in an effort to cut the leaves off. Just eat the leaves. Next time you go to eat a strawberry, try eating the leaves too - they're very mild in flavor, and you waste no strawberry!
    • PeterStuer 1 hour ago
      You pince of the leaves. Where do you imagine the waste?
    • modeless 23 hours ago
      In at least some varieties of strawberries, the top of the berry has the least flavor and sweetness, and the bottom has the most, so I don't feel like I'm losing much.
      • embedding-shape 22 hours ago
        Most mass-produced strawberries people eat today are basically white on the inside and relatively flavorless to the real thing anyway, I don't think most people miss out if they eat or not the top of the berry.
    • pragmatic 20 hours ago
      Yes, that’s where the pesticide are. Can’t get enough pesticides.
      • cush 5 hours ago
        Yeah you’re going to want to start by washing your produce
    • Tade0 23 hours ago
      I started chewing the leaves. There's a hint of strawberry in them.
    • busymom0 23 hours ago
      I just hold it by the leaves in my fingers and take a huge bite of the entire berry with my teeth ending right before the leaves.
      • sho_hn 23 hours ago
        I just rip the leaves off, which is very easy with the variety we eat here. I never would have thought to cut them off. Are your two strawberries different?
      • embedding-shape 22 hours ago
        Same, sometimes this lead to me eating a bit of the leaves, sometimes I leave a bit of strawberry, but no one died yet, so I continue :)
    • downrightmike 21 hours ago
      White part under them tastes like nothing
      • cush 5 hours ago
        Yeah I don’t buy strawberries if they have a white top
  • dbacar 23 hours ago
    Looking at the pesticide scores, one should not eat any fruit/vegetable without peeling if it has any.
    • r0m4n0 1 hour ago
      Surprised this comment is so low, was searching for it. Many fruits that you commonly peel can even contain both waxes and pesticides to keep insects out. You aren’t even able to wash it effectively.

      Things like cantaloupes, oranges, etc are famous for harboring bad bacteria and pesticides. Does not seem worth the risk to me…

      I used to watch people collect dandelions and weeds in NYC parks to make into tea and consume in other ways. I’m sure there are some benefits but I’m also sure they don’t outweigh the risks from pollutants.

    • bossyTeacher 22 hours ago
      That is why you wash your food before eating it same as you do with legumes and rice (that likely also have had pesticide on them).
      • sho_hn 22 hours ago
        In South Korea (where I used to live for a while) it's quite common to wash fruit with soapy water at home before eating them.
      • loco5niner 22 hours ago
        But peanuts and white rice, the most common ones have already been 'peeled'
      • brnt 22 hours ago
        Unfortunately a lot leaks in. Grapeskins are particularly porous for instance. So are most of the dirty dozen iirc.

        Skins are healthy, but only if organic and/or clean fifteen.

  • dempedempe 1 hour ago
    I've eaten the peel on a pineapple before. Not so bad actually.

    I thought eating the skins on kiwis was normal

  • bobbiechen 23 hours ago
    I do like to save watermelon rinds and cook them into soup.

    Anyone have a use for banana peels?

    • SamBam 1 hour ago
      I tried following an authentic Southern pickled watermelon rind recipe, and they were so sickly sweet I couldn't stomach them.

      I should try again sometime with a regular cucumber pickle recipe, just replacing cucumbers with watermelon rinds, but I don't think my family wants to humor me again.

    • asdfqwertzxcv 1 hour ago
      I like turning the rind into pickles. Very good!

      For banana skins, you can turn them into a vegan bacon. Many recipes online that are all pretty much the same result. I like them too.

    • VyseofArcadia 22 hours ago
      Yes, British TV chef Nigella Lawson cooks with them. https://youtu.be/kOF0Id92XRY?is=YOb6iPmPaMBeHLkJ
    • EvanAnderson 22 hours ago
      Thanks for sending me down that rabbit hole. Neat.

      We throw away a butt-ton of watermelon rind in the summer. I never thought to see if they could be used for something.

    • el_benhameen 23 hours ago
      Now that is actually novel! To me, at least. You cook them into a regular soup as an additive? Or you make watermelon rind soup? How’s it taste?
    • werdnapk 22 hours ago
      Banana peel oleo saccharum... you can add it to drinks and cocktails for a punch of banana.
    • downrightmike 21 hours ago
      Throw them in with the banana in the blender
  • rsktaker 57 minutes ago
    Golden kiwis + skin = my favorite fruit-experience OAT
  • globular-toast 19 minutes ago
    This is quite funny timing as just a few days ago my partner, who eats kiwis almost every day, tried eating the whole kiwi. She used to scoop it out but now says she'll never go back. It's also way more convenient as there are no tools required.
  • pragmatic 20 hours ago
    https://www.britannica.com/story/can-apple-seeds-kill-you

    Also, don’t feed them to dogs especially small dogs.

    Highly unlikely to be a problem but people die from water poisoning so…

  • sandesh247 22 hours ago
    Eating an apple the right way: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/42b8Zah8-jM
  • EvanAnderson 23 hours ago
    I am reminded of the saying in my family: Anything is edible if you're willing to eat it.

    My late father-in-law ate entire apples-- core and all. I've tried but I can't stomach the texture or how much more the fibrous parts of the core get stuck in my teeth. It doesn't disgust me, I just don't prefer it.

    Not to miss an opportunity to talk about apples:

    I started eating three apples / day for lunch last year. I hadn't realized how dirty apples are. I assumed the washing they get in processing gets them pretty clean. It does not. I wet them and clean the stem and flower areas with a paper towel. I'm shocked at how dirty the towel ends up.

    I'm a sweet apple kind of guy. Envy apples are the bomb. I used to like Honeycrisp but the rumors of their being bred into shitty tastelessness are true. They're terrible. Shockingly, sometimes Red Delicious, which I'd previously relegated to the "buy as a last resort" list, are actually pretty good now. Fuji, Gala, and Cosmic Crisp are all decent specimens.

    My wife likes Pink Lady but I think they're just a little too tart. She can also put away the Granny Smiths which I find to be horrifyingly sour. Ick!

    Anybody have feelings about other apple varieties a person like me might be into?

    • hysan 22 hours ago
      I don’t know much about apple variety names, but if you love apples and plan to visit Aomori prefecture in Japan during apple season, I highly recommend stopping by a market or grocery. I used to live in northern Akita and there was a farmer from Aomori that would come by with freshly picked apples to sell at one of the supermarkets. They had many varieties and they all tasted amazingly sweet and unique. I have yet to find an apple anywhere close to those since moving back to the states. The most recent new variety that I tried that I liked was Kiku. It’s like a sweeter version of a Fuji apple with a very similar texture. Based on your preferences, I think this would a fun one to try.
    • motionlessveloc 23 hours ago
      All mushrooms are edible, but some mushrooms are edible only once.
      • EvanAnderson 23 hours ago
        Point taken.

        I don't eat mushrooms-- can't stand the texture. I heard a podcast episode re: death cap mushrooms and it was chilling. A guy in the podcast talked about tasting a death cap then spitting it out and rinsing his mouth. He said they had a good taste.

        Absolutely horrifying.

        • ta988 22 hours ago
          This is what everyone poisoned with them say. And really often why they don't make the link between those and their illness.
      • monkpit 23 hours ago
        There are old mushroom hunters

        and there are bold mushroom hunters

        but there are no old bold mushroom hunters.

      • IncreasePosts 22 hours ago
        All mushrooms are edible only once, unless you're into coprophagia
    • zikduruqe 22 hours ago
      > ate entire apples-- core and all

      If you eat it from the North Pole to the South Pole, there is no core.

      The core is only there if you eat around the equator.

      Give it a try.

    • altairprime 22 hours ago
      Soluna is like eating crispy wine and is currently at the top of my list. Prior to finding that, Lady Alice improves on Pink Lady, and it was my rockstar favorite. Envy is my go-to year-round when I can’t find rarer varietals; I’ve eaten hundreds of them. Cosmic Crisp is a fine last resort when Honeycrisp is too bright. Consider also trying Rubinette, Arkansas Black, Zestar. My notes say Wild Twist is a former Lady Alice but I definitely rank it just below L.A.

      On the flipside: Kanzi “disappointment with every bite”, Ambrosia “pie apple because the raw texture sucks”, Autumn Glory DNF, Kissabel “lost its joy and turned grassy, DNF” Sugarbee “kinda one note, chewy, technically better than Red Delicious” Sweetango “knockoff Honeycrisp”, Evercrisp “painfully crisp, annoying to eat, fades to zero, looks like it was factory-polished, DNF”, Dazzle “all the flavourlessness of a Red Delicious with a nice crisp”, Ginger Gold “ten seconds of wonder and then mushes into disgusting texture and flavorlessness”

      • EvanAnderson 22 hours ago
        Thanks for the commentary. I'll check out some of those.
    • xnx 23 hours ago
      The core basically disappears if you cut an apple in disks (or each from the bottom).
      • EvanAnderson 23 hours ago
        I still cut out the core when I slice an apple. I don't know the anatomical terminology well, but the "plastic-ey" texture of, I believe, the endocarp is what I don't like. It reminds me a bit of the plastic-ey tooth-clogging bits of popcorn.
    • busymom0 23 hours ago
      Aren't the seeds of the apple supposed to contain cyanide? Article points this out too and risk doesn't seem worth it. I used to eat the whole apple long time ago until someone pointed that out and from my googling, it was correct. Now I try to eat all of the apple except the seeds and stem.

      I like putting my apples in the fridge. Love me a cold and crisp gala apple. On very rare occasion, the gala I get are mushy. But otherwise, they are my favorite.

      • doctor_blood 22 hours ago
        You would need to eat the seeds of SEVERAL HUNDRED apples in one sitting, and you would need to grind them up finely beforehand to get full amygdalin absorption.

        We're talking about almost a cup, or 100+ grams of apple seed here.

        Your body continually neutralizes cyanide with the enzyme rhodanese, so there's also no danger of cyanide accumulation from eating a few apples a day.

      • EvanAnderson 22 hours ago
        I don't know if my father-in-law spit out the seeds or not. I'd heard the cyanide thing as a kid and always avoided eating them.
  • lsch1033 22 hours ago
    Well certainly not for every fruit... especially after you learn that durian is an edible fruit
  • martythemaniak 1 hour ago
    Well, they're all editable, only question is if you like it and if the fruit skinn itself is good. I eat most kiwis with the skin on because it's a nice tart/acidic contrast to soft sweet insides, but some kiwis have extremely thick and acidic. Most pear cores are soft and sweet, but very few apple cores, nor worth it.
  • intrasight 23 hours ago
    I eat the apple skin (of most apples) but I do not eat the core.
  • fitsumbelay 47 minutes ago
    good post. much appreciated
  • busymom0 22 hours ago
    On a related note, a friend of mine removed both the skin and even the center core (the seeds part) of cucumbers. I think all that's left is about 30% of the cucumber.

    I found that truly bizarre. Her reasoning was that it was too watery (???)

    • russdill 1 hour ago
      It's very common to use a peeler to peel the skin, then keep peeling until you get to the seeds and just use those peeled strips.
  • NoImmatureAdHom 22 hours ago
    You can eat whole boiled eggs too. Shell and all.
  • tiahura 23 hours ago
    Mango skin, leaves, and sap contain compounds related to urushiol, the allergen in poison ivy.
    • embedding-shape 22 hours ago
      Huh, that's neat, so get used to eating mango skin, and eventually you can eat poison ivy? Kind of handy, thanks!
    • kaycebasques 22 hours ago
      I started eating mango skin a few months ago. When it's thin and bland, it's not bad. Gives a nice crunch to the eating experience. But often it's way too thick and sometimes strongly bitter.
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