21 comments

  • nilslindemann 3 hours ago
    Well, a search for "youtube acoustic fire extinguisher" indicates it has already been invented a few times by people all over the world. The most interesting video is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvnCQg4w4o8
    • fsckboy 2 hours ago
      I'll bet that high school girl's science was better than what's in that youtube (it doesn't set a very high bar)
      • pestatije 17 minutes ago
        that comparison says more about you than about how high school girls science is
    • biffert8 2 hours ago
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  • Animats 3 hours ago
    This seems to be a known technology but hasn't made it as a product.[1] It might have potential for very specific types of extinguishing, such as grills and grain silos, where the distance from extinguisher to trouble spot is fixed.

    [1] https://www.mdpi.com/2571-6255/8/4/129

  • frickinLasers 3 hours ago
    I wonder if she got the idea from https://www.sonicfiretech.com/
  • MathMonkeyMan 1 hour ago
    When an oil well goes off, high explosives can be used to extinguish it. Maybe this is the same principle.
  • bentt 3 hours ago
    very cool! Can we get a link to a not terrible website with real information?
    • cwillu 3 hours ago
      Bold of you to assume there is real information behind this.
    • nomilk 3 hours ago
      > Performing security verification

      > Verify you are human

      Does anyone else command + w on first sight of a cloudflare screen?

      • gonight 3 hours ago
        I'll tolerate that but that new QR recaptcha that wants a selfie is 'hell fucking no' from me 100% of the time.
        • Calazon 23 minutes ago
          There are captchas that demand selfies now? I have never heard of that before and it sounds completely crazy.
        • Barbing 1 hour ago
        • CamperBob2 2 hours ago
          I sure hope humans are in the loop at those companies, reviewing pics that aren't recognized as faces. If I ever see one of those captchas, they'll get to see some things that no human has ever, or should ever, see.
      • CamperBob2 2 hours ago
        Nah, I just have my clanker deal with it. It's better at those stupid puzzles than I am.
        • mitxela 2 hours ago
          Cloudflare doesn't do puzzles. It either says you're a bot or you're not a bot.
          • LoganDark 1 hour ago
            Love when something decides I'm a bot and the decision is final. (Looking at you, CPU-World -- it even lets me know my IP address has been banned for "abuse", too.)
  • kevin_nisbet 3 hours ago
    Not exactly acoustic but reminds me of a high school science project we had one year, something along the lines of put out a candle with a contraption. My partner and I rigged up a balloon to be popped by the candle, and the balloon pop blows out the candle. Probably not an original idea, but I don't think any other group in the class tried a similar approach. Worked like a charm.
  • spottedmarley 2 hours ago
    Oooh.. from the title I thought this was about an extinguisher for when your guitar catches fire. Makes more sense now
  • ssl-3 3 hours ago
    > Ángela Karime Venegas Hernández is 16 years old and has an idea no one else had.

    ...meanwhile, some folks at George Mason University were doing this back in 2015[1]:

    > The fire extinguisher uses low-frequency sound waves to douse a blaze. Engineering seniors Viet Tran and Seth Robertson now hold a preliminary patent application for their potentially revolutionizing device.

    []: https://patents.google.com/patent/US10569115B2/en

    [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPVQMZ4ikvM

  • rootedbox 2 hours ago
    At other frequencies, sound can actually intensify flames, depending on the surrounding environment. Standing waves and the frequency of the sound (FM) are likely factors in this phenomenon. However, it’s not advisable to use sound as a method for extinguishing fires.
    • dosisking 2 hours ago
      Instead of FM, maybe they can just use an AY-3-8910?
  • diogenescynic 25 minutes ago
    This is something from science fiction or a comic book. Super cool!
  • copper-float 2 hours ago
    Why does it matter that she's Mexican?
    • ajkjk 2 hours ago
      Stereotyped as less of a STEM country, probably accurately, so it seems newsworthy plus gives people hope and optimism to hear about cool inventions from there.
      • bigstrat2003 1 hour ago
        Or, you know... people like to know more about the bright kid who came up with a cool idea. Not everything is racism.
        • ajkjk 1 hour ago
          either one, yeah
    • vlugorilla 1 hour ago
      Seems to matter to you
    • lern_too_spel 2 hours ago
      Because it's a Chilean blog about feel good stories in Latin America, just like it says on the tin.
    • rotringlvr 1 hour ago
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  • bawolff 3 hours ago
    out of curiosity, would something like this hurt a human? I assume the sound waves must be pretty powerful to put out a fire.
    • nomel 12 minutes ago
      It's a standard subwoofer speaker/driver put in a ported enclosure, running at 30Hz, creating a particularly "fast punch" sub. You can this sort of design to listen to music [1]. It all runs on 12 volts because it's standard car audio equipment.

      Subwoofers can definitely harm human ears, but definitely not human flesh. Just don't put your ear up to it.

      [1] https://cadencesound.com/product/tube12vp/?srsltid=AfmBOoqdE...

    • zdragnar 1 hour ago
      There's plenty of links in Dublin comments for other instances of the tech being developed at least partially, and at least one for in-home fire suppression. Given that last one, I'm thinking it operates on the basis of resonance rather than amplitude to disrupt combustion.
    • _carbyau_ 1 hour ago
      Seems like a standing wave thing to halt airflow rather than "overpower with Bill & Ted's Awesomeness!".

      Depending on what they have going, it might be loud, might not.

  • dfee 1 hour ago
    when i was in the 5th grade (give or take a couple years), there was an innovation project where we were to bring in and present to the class an invention.

    i remember a girl inventing what i now know to be a "flexible weighted dip tube" – think of it as a shampoo bottle that you can pump upside down – and was amazed.

    like this submission, the flexible straw wasn't really invented by the student. at best it was independently discovered, but this patent was from at least twenty five years before: https://patents.google.com/patent/US3547296A/en

    to that end, i wonder what the point of presenting these inventions as your own are – especially in the time of the internet when prior art is so easily discovered. or, did i miss the point?

  • Sabinus 1 hour ago
    I struggle to understand why this article is interesting or upvoted.
  • cactusplant7374 3 hours ago
    > Ángela Karime Venegas Hernández is 16 years old and has an idea no one else had.

    Hate to be a downer, but this has been done before.

    https://acoustics.org/pressroom/httpdocs/150th/Plaks.html

  • CR1337 1 hour ago
    ..has been around for a long time.

    DARPA worked on it 10+ years ago.

  • mulanroo 3 hours ago
    The reason this keeps getting reinvented is that the physics only half works. Sound disrupts the flame's boundary layer and separates it from the fuel, but it removes almost no heat. The fuel stays above its ignition temperature, so anything hot nearby relights it the second the speaker stops. DARPA demoed this in 2012 and it stalled there. Impressive on a small liquid fuel fire in a lab, very hard to scale to anything you'd actually want to put out.
    • rkagerer 2 hours ago
      I wonder if one could use a thermal camera (or some other, high speed sensor) and some kind of feedback loop to squelch it and keep it disrupted until it cools. Or conversely, manipulate the flame for more complete combustion (in industrial processes).

      But granted, I have trouble seeing this work on a large scale without much more sophisticated sonic wave tech.

  • cwillu 3 hours ago
    Pangram reports 100% AI; it may be an artifact of translation, but...