7 comments

  • rawland 29 minutes ago
    How can this happen to a modern fintech... Esp. handling identity verification so poorly?

    > A Revolut spokesperson confirmed to TechCrunch that a “limited” number of customers were impacted and said the company had contacted those customers directly. Revolut, however, did not disclose the exact number of impacted individuals. It also did not answer whether the incident was limited to a specific market and declined to disclose the government agency involved.

    Is the lack of transparency here about protecting the doxxed HNWIs or are they just trying to hide the incompetence?

    • hirako2000 7 minutes ago
      You could argue that the government agency is at fault. 1 for their breach, 2 more importantly: for mandating that personal information get handed over without an official court order which would have involved a far more stringent process with multiple parties involved.
    • tdrz 8 minutes ago
      This can happen with modern fintech because of greed. There's a reason they can offer such cheap services. The customer takes a risk in return. Now that risk has materialized.
  • tdrz 23 minutes ago
    Here is one of the replies I got during my conversation with their agent (unsure if human or automated):

    "Your personal data must be held until it is permissible to erase it in accordance with the law. Rest assured, it is totally secure and only held for this purpose."

    This was in the same conversation where I sent them the article.

    • rawland 18 minutes ago
      My dialogue:

      > Hi, me affected by your breach?

      Them:

      > "I have checked our records and can confirm that you have not received any notifications or communications regarding any security incidents or data breaches in the past 30 days.

      > We take your privacy extremely seriously. All data transmissions between our mobile apps, servers, and third parties are fully encrypted, and your personal information is stored in secure data centres with restricted access. If there is ever any security incident that impacts your account, we will always contact you directly with instructions.

      > Are you asking because you recently received a suspicious email, text message, or noticed an unusual transaction on your account? Let me know, and we can investigate that together."

      ... bot stuffs.

  • hndhyc0bdt 47 minutes ago
    Ran an LE request desk for a while and the whole thing was PDFs from .gov-ish email addresses. Only real control we had was calling the agency back on a number we looked up ourselves, not the one on the letterhead.
    • znnajdla 37 minutes ago
      What is LE? Let’s Encrypt?
      • ericpauley 37 minutes ago
        Guessing Law Enforcement
  • cassianoleal 49 minutes ago
    > The data may have also included verification selfies

    Why do they even keep those?

    • igsomething 17 minutes ago
      I am almost sure they don't and instead they query selfies and documents on-demand from their KYC provider.
      • petre 7 minutes ago
        [flagged]
    • Numerlor 36 minutes ago
      Around banking it's usually because they have to
      • tdrz 34 minutes ago
        Other banks do not require selfies, so there are other options
        • flyingcoder 20 minutes ago
          But they are verifying customers in person with account creation, this is an online bank
          • tdrz 11 minutes ago
            > But they are verifying customers in person with account creation, this is an online bank

            Revolut could do the same as they do with ATMs: make a partnership with local banks for the verification step.

          • HPsquared 9 minutes ago
            Seems like a thing you should be able to do at the post office.
            • whatevaa 6 minutes ago
              What does post office have to do with identity verification?
        • subscribed 16 minutes ago
          Most banks now require selfies, try shopping around. KYC requirements get tightened all the time.
          • tdrz 11 minutes ago
            I have accounts with 2 other banks. They never asked for a selfie.
        • anthonj 21 minutes ago
          This is a 100% online bank account you typically open from an app. The typical clientele will just use the "selfie" auth.
          • tdrz 7 minutes ago
            The issue is that there is no alternative to the "selfie" auth in case of Revolut.
    • dotancohen 48 minutes ago
      CYA in case of litigation.
  • hrpnk 50 minutes ago
    Even if the trigger was spoofed, how come there is no secure channel that the govt provides to receive the data? Was this one also compromised?
  • tdrz 31 minutes ago
    I asked if my data was compromised, they said no, but how can I trust/verify this?
  • halilBB 41 minutes ago
    The interesting failure here is not phishing, it is that "the email came from the real government domain" was accepted as authorization. A domain proves who sent the message, not that the sender was entitled to ask. Every compliance team I have worked with in payments had the same gap: the legal-request inbox verifies DKIM and the letterhead, then a human decides under time pressure with "law enforcement" in the subject line. What actually works is boring: a published list of the exact channels each authority uses, a callback to a number you looked up yourself rather than one in the email, a required case reference you can verify with the agency, and a hard rule that emergency requests get a minimal data set, never full KYC packages plus transaction history. The part that should worry Revolut customers more than the passport scans is the Bitcoin history: on-chain that data is permanent, so a leaked address-to-identity mapping does not expire.
    • someoneeestis 4 minutes ago
      I was thinking about exactly that and then I found this comment.

      One spoofs an email domain and then is able to get trust from a "modern global fintech"? Absolutely ridiculous. Having worked for several global scale tech companies, I've seen first hand how security is at the absolutely bottom of the list. It does not translate to $$$ so it is uncared for.

      Revolut keeps pestering me with requests for interviews and I keep running away from it. One more con (pun intended) to the list.