25 Years of Mass Surveillance Is Enough

(schneier.com)

107 points | by iamnothere 1 hour ago

5 comments

  • RajT88 8 minutes ago
    > It says that the government “will prioritize the rapid identification and neutralization of violent secular political groups whose ideology is anti-American, radically pro-transgender and anarchist” and “will use all the tools constitutionally available to us to map them at home, identify their membership, map their ties to international organizations like Antifa.”

    So, Democratic candidates who are looking like they will win a seat this midterm cycle are going to get arrested for "domestic terrorism".

    • chinathrow 5 minutes ago
      That's inline whit some of the goals of the people behind Project 2025 are calling for.
  • N_Lens 17 minutes ago
    Surveillance and totalitarian control is a downward spiral of misery and suffering for everyone, even those in power.

    It reminds me of some quotes from the Tao Te Ching -

    Restriction breeds the disorder it's meant to prevent (ch. 57) The more prohibitions there are in the world, the poorer the people become. The more sharp weapons, the more the state falls into confusion. The more laws and edicts are posted, the more thieves and bandits there are.

    The world isn't a thing to be managed (ch. 29) The world is a sacred vessel; it cannot be manipulated. Whoever acts on it ruins it; whoever grips it loses it.

    • api 16 minutes ago
      Yes there's incentive structures that push it forward.

      It's a classic example of us being dragged along by incentives and emergent patterns against our individual wills and better judgement.

    • cineticdaffodil 7 minutes ago
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  • smalltorch 1 hour ago
    It's a great write up thankyou. I propose we build and distribute easy to use services designed to run on our own devices, in our own homes, to take full advantage of 1st and 4th amendments, then distribute these services widely with billboards so that people have alternatives and can take advantage of these protections.
    • tacomagick 12 minutes ago
      We are trying, but the interop of these self hosted services currently suck. Fediverse is hard to get in to unless you have many users or you just have to join a popular instance. Who knows what they do in this instance, and it turns back into a loop.
    • Joker_vD 1 hour ago
      You mean the 3rd amendment, right?
    • 8by3 1 hour ago
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  • ReptileMan 34 minutes ago
    Mate I am afraid the world governments are just starting.
  • lapcat 9 minutes ago
    Our corrupt duopolist politicians, who are bought and owned by the military-industrial complex, continue to vote to renew all of this. There's no "resistance". Some claim that Trump is a fascist but nonetheless rubber stamp the imperial Presidency.

    The US Constitution is intentionally anti-democratic (small "d'), plutocratic, to protect the interests of the founding plutocrats. But at the time, the US was a preindustrial, agrarian nation, in which the fastest mode of communication and transportation was the horse. The concentration of power that has become possible now due to technology was inconceivable by the founders. I fear that nothing short of another American revolution can solve this problem; but that would surely be horribly bloody, as with most revolutions.