Apple Pass Designer

(developer.apple.com)

91 points | by soheilpro 44 minutes ago

9 comments

  • rock_artist 24 minutes ago
    > Pass Designer beta requires macOS 27 or later

    Interesting if this is due to concrete reason or not.

    • user_7832 17 minutes ago
      Yeah this caught my eye too. I can't imagine any technical reason why a Mac works but a windows/Linux computer wouldn't work. Tbh this is the side of Apple I dislike the most - restricting things without any good reason.

      And especially if you look at small organizations without much funding that use old PCs (or just have crappy IT departments)... it's disappointing. This kind of restriction won't stop a billion dollar LiveNation, but it absolutely could affect the local library or cafe.

      • coldtea 5 minutes ago
        > Yeah this caught my eye too. I can't imagine any technical reason why a Mac works but a windows/Linux computer wouldn't work.

        Parent meant the macOS version restriction.

        Why it's not for Windows/Linux is obvious. Unless it's to give Windows users access to some cross platform service or hardware (like the iPod used to be), it's not Apple's job to make software for other platforms. They're not a company making general business software like Adobe or MS.

        This is to interface with macOS only Apple Wallet anyway.

      • can16358p 10 minutes ago
        Very likely they might use some common frameworks that are shared between macOS, iOS, and watchOS to design (e.g. SwiftUI) and writing the whole stack for non-Apple platforms simply wouldn't make sense.
      • callc 14 minutes ago
        > restricting things without any good reason

        A feature, not a bug!

        You need to be super up to date to be involved! Have all the devices!

    • ladberg 13 minutes ago
      Apple has a habit of extracting any shared code between apps into an OS lib, and this is actually often easier to develop on internally than hosting shared deps elsewhere because all devs are constantly updating to the latest nightly OS release and therefore constantly getting the latest version of everyone else's libs.

      The result is that it's basically impossible to write new code without it having hard dependencies on the newest OS! Kinda sucks for the outside world though.

    • briandw 20 minutes ago
      Mostly it's a QA issue. For new features it's just much easier to ignore older OSs
    • ceejayoz 18 minutes ago
      Devs are expected to test on the latest OS, and this is a dev tool?
      • eptcyka 3 minutes ago
        Devs are also expected to test on any supported OS, which is a right old pain.
    • AndrewKemendo 15 minutes ago
      Knowing Apple it’s almost certainly to have verifiable (locally generated) crypto signatures for the QR/Bar codes so people can’t make their own forgeries from screenshots
  • frabert 27 minutes ago
    Haha this is bizzarely specific to my back-of-the woods brain. Feels like something that would be super relevant to someone in San Francisco but not as much to me
    • boplicity 23 minutes ago
      There are many events you can't get into now without a smartphone. Unfortunately on-phone digital tickets are far too common and far too commonly mandatory. There's a huge audience of people who are required to use them. It may be specific, but it's also what we're stuck with.
      • Telemakhos 2 minutes ago
        I think the parent poster was asking how consistent that is across geographic divides. I notice the same effect: I live part of the year in a city where public transport requires either a smartphone or tap-to-pay, and the rest of the year in a rural area where nobody assumes you're carrying a smartphone. It seems to me at least that urban areas are standardizing on requiring people to carry a smartphone for tickets, passes, even menus in some places; while this hasn't caught on in rural areas. I would bet that people in rural areas will regard Apple's event ticket maker as alien to their lives and a sign of some sort of urban folly. I wonder if there's a similar urban/rural division on users of Apple's Invites app.
      • corytheboyd 18 minutes ago
        > There are many events you can't get into now without a smartphone.

        Yeah, it's pretty bad.

        At least Apple's Wallet app works offline. There is nothing worse than having to use a dogshit proprietary app, waiting for it to handshake with four thousand data collection services before you can reach your My Tickets page, in a location where cell service is shit because thousands of other people are trying to do the same thing.

        • lesuorac 4 minutes ago
          It’s bad. I used to have a 6s which doesn’t have some nfc thing so most of the ticketmaster readers didn’t work and i had to go lookup how to get a barcode to appear..
      • saghm 11 minutes ago
        I went a baseball playoff game this week with my father-in-law, and he sent me the ticket from TicketMaster in advance (not blaming him of course). I downloaded the app and logged in, and the first thing it prompted me was to select what type of events I was interested in...just to view the ticket that I already had on my account. It was skippable with some small, not-obviously-button-looking text at the bottom, so I did that, but it sucks that even when I do genuinely find digital tickets convenient, the experience is still horrible. (There was an option for exporting to Google Wallet but it kept failing, which unfortunately did not surprise me)
        • subpixel 2 minutes ago
          I found out the expensive way this year that you cannot even give someone a TicketMaster ticket. A ticket is app-based, and bound to your TicketMaster account and the only conceivable way to share it would be to give someone else your account credentials, which is stymied by the app's SMS based 2FA.

          I will never give that company another dime, I don't care if John Lennon is reanimated and launches a comedy tour.

    • stackghost 14 minutes ago
      I’m curious what it does that Claude or Codex can’t. Fundamentally it’s just producing an image with a QR code on it, right?
      • waterheater 3 minutes ago
        In some cases, yes, but I've used a digital ticketing system (Ticketmaster) where the barcode changes about every 20 seconds. Short of reproducing that barcode generation algorithm, Claude or Codex wouldn't help yes.
  • GodelNumbering 25 minutes ago
    Hard to root for something that only serves to entrench the monopoly further
    • gumby 18 minutes ago
      Whats’s the monopoly in this case?

      In general, whatever else one can say about Apple, it’s hard to see them having a monopoly in anything. Apple phones are about 1/3 of all phones in use; Apple laptops are well less than 20% of all laptops (bigger than I would have guessed), their VR headsets in use might crack three digits (OK, an exaggeration, but could there be more than 100K actually in image? I doubt it), etc.

      Same is true in software and services (does anyone use iMessage outside the US?), and every place that takes Apple Pay takes Google too, nd most also take Samsung; many countries just use QR codes.

      • carlosjobim 11 minutes ago
        Everything which a company I don't like might do is a monopoly, and that's why I rage like Pavlovs dog any time the name is mentioned. It's very important people know my opinion on everything and everyone.
      • rfghy 4 minutes ago
        [dead]
    • ceejayoz 18 minutes ago
      The… QR code monopoly?
      • bix6 13 minutes ago
        > Pass Designer supports designs that take full advantage of the latest advances in Apple Wallet

        Transaction data.

  • mglvsky 13 minutes ago
    I've lurked about PKPASS[1] file format a little bit, sounds like any vibecoder can make editor of those files, but maybe I am missing something (verification?)

    [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PKPASS

  • ajkjk 23 minutes ago
    Does it run on non-Apple devices also? If not...
  • cyanbane 25 minutes ago
    Even though they call it pass, this can really be used for a ton of things. Neat addition to the ecosystem, I never would have thought of putting it in the hands of normal users.
  • philo23 14 minutes ago
    Also worth mentioning that they added an easy way to make passes directly in the wallet app on iOS 27, you can basically scan in existing barcodes and qr codes.
  • deepfriedchokes 15 minutes ago
    Would love to see a generative AI tool that can integrate the QR/barcode into the artwork itself. Maybe in the next version… Maybe someone could vibe code that.
  • benatkin 23 minutes ago
    These are reminiscent of NFTs, they are things you can collect, mass generated.
    • BryantD 19 minutes ago
      Huh. Doesn't remind me of those at all. For example, I used the other new Apple Wallet functionality yesterday to put my local library card into Apple Wallet and now I've got one less thing to carry around. Worked perfectly for checking out a book today.
      • dexterdog 12 minutes ago
        What is new about that feature? Couldn't you add arbitrary IDs before?