House with 15m underground tunnels for sale for 300k

(readingchronicle.co.uk)

80 points | by librasteve 2 hours ago

27 comments

  • samstress 1 hour ago
    One room even features a secret entrance — hidden inside a rocket by the pool. — Ey — pshhh! :-)

    I used to live in the inner city of Leipzig during my university days, and we had a door in the basement that led to wartime tunnels connecting it to other houses. It wasn't like a massive maze, just a hub with three other paths, each leading to another house nearby. From there, however, if they'd unlocked their doors, you could travel farther.

    I was on a mission back then to befriend and convince random neighbours across the street to open their access doors and get some kind of network going, but I didn't meet with much enthusiasm.

    • librasteve 1 hour ago
      Reading (the largest town in the UK btw) has other tunnels … for example https://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/news/14492484.sneak-a-pea... and there is a rumour of secret escape tunnels from the (medieval) abbey.
      • hermitcrab 1 hour ago
        Swindon has a significantly larger population than Reading.
        • librasteve 1 hour ago
          dang … guess I am stuck in 1961 https://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/census/EW1961PRE/1?utm_so...

          fwiw I just threw this in since many on HN probably don’t know much about Reading

          red face

          • hermitcrab 1 hour ago
            Swindon has been growing like crazy. ~92,000 in 1961 to ~233,000 in 2021. Passing Reading's population in the 90s.

            >many on HN probably don’t know much about Reading

            Maybe it is better that way. ;0)

            • dcminter 1 hour ago
              It's a city that can be annoyingly hard to Google. If, for example, you search for "Reading Library" you basically get ALL THE LIBRARIES... :)
              • hermitcrab 1 hour ago
                It's still a town (despite efforts to the contrary).
          • jimlikeslimes 1 hour ago
            I thought it was made city status a while back too!
            • hermitcrab 1 hour ago
              Nope.

              "In the end, the 2022 contest saw Reading beaten to the post by Dunfermline, Bangor, Douglas, Doncaster, Wrexham, Colchester, and nearby Milton Keynes. "

              https://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/news/25782760.reading-not...

              A lot of sources seem to cite Reading as 'England's largest town' but maybe that is by area, rather than population? Also depends on where you put the boundary.

    • pluc 1 hour ago
      Underground kiez would kill in Berlin
  • _jholland 1 hour ago
    The listing of the property on the auction site:

    https://www.btgeddisonspropertyauctions.com/properties/20260...

    It includes many more photos than the article, as well as floor plans for the subterranean areas

    • librasteve 1 hour ago
      I claim 1% commission if anyone on HN buys it
    • Hamuko 52 minutes ago
      Has the potential for an "EMP resistant server farm"? Is that a common thing that realtors need to find for their clients?
      • pupppet 41 minutes ago
        ChatGPT give me some bullet points for my listing
      • derpyzza 40 minutes ago
        i dunno but i certainly am more intrigued now
    • idbnstra 1 hour ago
      it seems as though it hath been hugged to death
  • looperhacks 2 hours ago
    lowercase m. 15 meters, not 15 million tunnels :D

    If you're interested in secret tunnels, check out Colin Furze on Youtube!

    • shagie 1 hour ago
      Relatively secluded and private, Seymour Cray was also a tunneler... he wouldn't have been making videos about it

      The story about him in Time at the time: https://web.archive.org/web/20080521163217/http://www.time.c...

          For Cray, the excavation project is more than a simple diversion. "I work when I'm at home," he recently told a visiting scientist. "I work for three hours, and then I get stumped, and I'm not making progress. So I quit, and I go and work in the tunnel. It takes me an hour or so to dig four inches and put in the 4-by-4s. Now, as you can see, I'm up in the Wisconsin woods, and there are elves in the woods. So when they see me leave, they come into my office and solve all the problems I'm having. Then I go back up and work some more."
      
      And an article someone wrote later... https://michael-starobin.squarespace.com/blogcontent/digging...
    • Freak_NL 1 hour ago
      I wasn't impressed by the 15 metres, but it turns out that is the maximum depth reached, not the length of a tunnel.
    • tecleandor 1 hour ago
      Yeah, I though it was 15 meters of length, not that impressive... but it is 15m underground and '... 1,300 square feet of underground space, including tunnels and storage rooms'.
      • mrwh 1 hour ago
        It's very UK to give depth in metric and area in imperial
        • alexfoo 18 minutes ago
          Small areas in Imperial, then you move on to number of tennis courts, then number of football pitches, and then to fractions/multiples of Wales.
    • curiousObject 34 minutes ago
      not 15 million tunnels :D

      That traditionally would be described as “a maze of twisty little passages, all alike”

    • hidelooktropic 2 hours ago
      Thank you. I definitely read this as million.
    • wincy 2 hours ago
      If you’re instead interested in a book about a house with 15 million tunnels, read House of Leaves!
      • wafflemaker 1 hour ago
        This is a very scary horror, tho the book (like other books by the author) is published in a very quality way.
    • Scubabear68 1 hour ago
      I read it as 15 million tunnels too, was very confused. Thank you!
      • kzrdude 1 hour ago
        I figured 15 meters tunnel is not worth mentioning, so had to be 15 miles.
    • triceratops 57 minutes ago
      The most important comment on this article.
    • foobarian 1 hour ago
      That is still an impressive water table. I wish ours was that low :-)
    • librasteve 2 hours ago
      oops … sorry … now fixed
  • fusslo 1 hour ago
    I, too, one day dream of using my children as labor for my underground tunnel system. To fight the ant, you must become the ant

    I'm joking, but it's heartening to see quirky hobbies by qualified people (he was a civil engineer).

    • spyspy 1 hour ago
      Homes need more whimsey. I recently discovered one of my interior doorways is actually a stone archway that someone had squared off, drywalled and installed a cheap hollow door for no apparent reason. Working with a stonemason to re-point/parge it and bring it back to glory. Will I ever see a return on this investment? Probably not but fuck it it'll make my house just that much cooler.
      • cucumber3732842 14 minutes ago
        Nobody can afford whimsey anymore because if you are doing anything invasive enough to involve permits then any sort of deviation from the "megacorp cookie cutter" aesthetic becomes a scrutinized liability.
    • hermitcrab 1 hour ago
      If I had 6 children, I would probably take up tunnelling.
  • runako 1 hour ago
    Researching what the article meant by "rocket" (I assumed it was a Britishism), I found this article that includes more pictures.

    https://www.aol.com/articles/unassuming-bungalow-hides-netwo...

    • librasteve 1 hour ago
      aol wtf
      • Steaglsz 1 hour ago
        AOL has never done me dirty, asked for me to buy cloud data, auto deleted emails. Aim account still going strong for email
  • lftl 43 minutes ago
    Anyone interested in this might also be interested in Kala on TikTok. She's been building a tunnel system under her house and documenting it for a couple of years.

    https://www.tiktok.com/@engineer.everything?lang=en

  • rzerowan 32 minutes ago
    Hm i dont know ,if they were MY tunnels i would be ok with them there.Someone elses tunnels just rub me the wrong way , like stepping in someone elses house with the furniture still there.
  • artisinal 1 hour ago
    Freestanding house with a pool for 300k? That is incredibly cheap. Perhaps I should move there.
    • bluGill 1 hour ago
      UK money. Still that works out to about $400k in us dollars. You can find better deals in the US, but probably none with tunnels - and unlikely to be places you want to live though not bad places (bad places in the US that would be around $120k)
    • manarth 1 hour ago
      Auction pricing.

      It'll start out at £300k (to market it attractively) and end up selling for £500k+.

    • aeyes 1 hour ago
      Check the pictures, this doesn't look like a house to me. 2 levels of workshop areas and an office area. Also the swimming pool is in the front yard, thats a weird one.
    • yourusername 1 hour ago
      There's a bunch of potentially unpermitted tunnels under the property. Quite the liability.
      • cucumber3732842 13 minutes ago
        And if they were permitted you'd still have the liability. It's not like the permitting authority is gonna say "aw well we let you do it this is on us" if something happens.

        "Real" liability of the "if something happens I'm on the hook" kind is not what's driving down the value here. What's driving down the value is that now that there's a bunch of pictures floating around the internet the tunnels are worthless because some government inspector could choose on a whim to force you to fill them in at your expense (which you would presumably fight, expensively, in court).

    • hermitcrab 1 hour ago
      It does seem cheap for a house in Reading, even factoring in that it is a bungalow. Maybe they factored in increased subsidence risk?
    • gib444 1 hour ago
      Suspiciously cheap. There are no detached (what we call 'freestanding') properties on Right Move in the area under £400k. The cheapest is £450k

      EDIT: oops, forgot to select the 'Bungalow' filter too (ugh). 2 properties: £375k and £350k (very small, 60m2). Still...nothing detached around £300k

      EDIT2: ohh auction...230m2...yeh won't go for £300k, way more

  • meindnoch 1 hour ago
    Reminds me how rich people in historic areas of London took on the habit of extending their properties downwards, keeping the above-ground parts intact due to conservation laws.

    Then everyone acted surprised when entire streets started sinking, or whole buildings collapsed into the ground: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/nov/03/london-stree...

  • dotancohen 2 hours ago
    That 15 meters underground, not 15 million tunnels.
    • rzzzt 1 hour ago
      The title is "not even" clickbait, just very confusing.

      "The unique complex contains more than 1,300 square feet of underground space, including tunnels and storage rooms - and even a hand-built railway."

      (Edit: I mean the original article, not the submission)

      • librasteve 1 hour ago
        well I (the submitter) messed up and wrote 15M in the submission title (note the cap) in error just to add to the confusion (now fixed, soz.) … I thought “best” just to repeat the article title
        • rzzzt 1 hour ago
          No worries, I take issue with the person who concocted the original title. I got here after the capital-M change and it was still confusing that they didn't mention the space that was dug out at this depth, instead paint a picture of a system of tunnels under a normal house(?)
    • librasteve 1 hour ago
      sorry for the capital M … I have fixed in the title to 15m as in metres

      that’s ~ 45 ft underground, I believe … perhaps not that impressive, but quite funny since I would hesitate to undermine my own house and surely this makes it worth less

  • TYPE_FASTER 1 hour ago
    Cool! Here's another example of a tunnel house: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forestiere_Underground_Gardens
  • Luc 1 hour ago
    What are those dark brown cylinder shapes in the sides of the roughly hewn tunnel (first image on the right)?
    • zulux 1 hour ago
      My hunch: Sound-deadening baffles.
  • traxler 1 hour ago
    This misses the most important question.

    Why is it for sale?

    • conductr 23 minutes ago
      Says it’s vacant. Says guy started in the 80s. Going to deduce he is/was older and moving on for any number of normal reasons. Why is the reason so important?
    • b3lvedere 1 hour ago
      Looking at the pictures, my best guess is that the maintenance has been an issue for some time.
  • TheOtherHobbes 1 hour ago
    300k in Tilehurst for a house with a pool is incredibly cheap.

    [Looks at interior photos]

    Ah. Anyway.

    Curious how he got planning permission. Or if he got planning permission.

  • aeve890 1 hour ago
    15 meters deep underground in 4 levels, not just a 15 meters long tunnel.
  • werdnapk 1 hour ago
    So you just go digging under neighbours properties? What about underground infrastructure?
    • Sharlin 1 hour ago
      I don’t think it extends beyond property limits.
  • jvanderbot 1 hour ago
    would love to see the radon measurements in those tunnels/basement.
    • fred_is_fred 1 hour ago
      Is that an issue in the UK?
      • manarth 1 hour ago
        In granite bedrock areas such as Cornwall, yes, radon is a significant concern that requires measurement and usually remediation (extraction fans).

        The chalk bedrock in Reading isn't generally susceptible to radon.

        UK radon mapping data: https://www.ukradon.org/information/ukmaps

      • hermitcrab 1 hour ago
        It is in some areas with a lot of granite, such as Cornwall. I'm not aware it is a factor in Reading.
        • wafflemaker 1 hour ago
          Granite tends to contain Radon as it's in the decay chain of Uranium, which is often found in Granite.
      • jvanderbot 1 hour ago
        It comes out of the ground. UK has some of that I think.

        Tunnels and basements just trap it so it can't blow away.

      • louthy 1 hour ago
        Very much so.
  • dyauspitr 35 minutes ago
    15m is… almost nothing?
  • andai 1 hour ago
    The masculine urge to dig...
  • Simulacra 42 minutes ago
    It's got a lot of interesting qualities, but it looks like a dungeon… Not quite put the lotion in the basket type.. but close.
  • Archit3ch 1 hour ago
    15 meters is a tragedy. 15 million is a statistic.
  • x187463 1 hour ago
    Colin Furze has entered the chat.
    • alexfoo 20 minutes ago
      That was my first thought. Then I wondered why it was talking about Reading rather than Lincolnshire.
  • dgrin91 1 hour ago
    Maybe I missed it through all the ads, but it's pretty disappointing that there is no direct link to the listing?
  • librasteve 2 hours ago
    sorry for the ads … but this made me smile
    • throooooo 1 hour ago
      You'd probably be interested in this person's work: https://youtu.be/6CLF4QrYmYg
      • ljf 1 hour ago
        Ha I came to see if anyone had posted her. I love her Instagram, so much of it is the logistics of moving all the rock out and supplies in. Fascinating problems to solve on a small scale.
      • librasteve 1 hour ago
        oh yeah! tunnel merch
    • hermitcrab 1 hour ago
      The online versions of local British Newspapers are almost unreadable now with all the chumbox ads and continual page repainting. Ugh.
      • tejohnso 1 hour ago
        I didn't see a single ad. Why not use an ad blocker, or just use Brave?
  • b800h 19 minutes ago
    Can't access this site - wants me to enable some form of tracking that my DNS doesn't allow. Alternate source?