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  • ferguess_k 42 minutes ago
    My question is, why is Israel so good at this? It seems to be at least the 4th cyber power of the world, after the US, Russia and China, if not actually on par or better.

    I guess it is because it has been under the threat of larger enemies from its birth, so it must leverage whatever it has to survive. And once you grow an organization and let it loose, you don't have much control over it anymore, and it grows in the wild like a flower.

    • Ambolia 31 minutes ago
      Because it's the only country allowed get away with stuff that would be an international scandal if a normal country did it.
    • Angostura 10 minutes ago
      Back when I was a tech journalist, back in the 90s I visited Israel once and interviewed a number of their tech companies - admittedly most in the cyber-security space.

      They ascribed a lot of the tech innovation to conscription - lots of the founders had learned a lot while in technical posts in the army and put that to use when they left.

    • tancop 1 minute ago
      Multiple reasons. America gives Israel special protection for everything they do, Ashkenazi and general Jewish culture values education more than anyone outside of East Asia, and a lot of Soviet Jewish scientists had to work for the military so they came to Israel with cryptography or spy tech experience.
    • Lio 30 minutes ago
      It’s an interesting question. I would also guess that this kind of behaviour would be illegal for private companies in many countries even if you don’t do it domestically.
    • someotherperson 29 minutes ago
      Putting it amongst that cohort and suggesting it's a flower is definitely one reading I guess.
    • gilrain 14 minutes ago
      The US, to its eternal shame, guarantees their security.

      Israel is not particularly skillful: they're a little bully getting in some punches while a big bully holds back the rescuers. Ooh, tough guy!

      • mvelbaum 1 minute ago
        Cope harder. The US guarantees the security of many nations, including many of the failed states in the Middle East, I mean look at Saudi Arabia, being completely helpless and begging everyone for help.
    • gatlin 17 minutes ago
      “Threat of larger enemies” yeah that’s the direction the threat goes.
    • logicchains 9 minutes ago
      >why is Israel so good at this?

      The same reason around 25% of Nobel Prize winners are Jewish. Because the Ashkenazi IQ is much higher than average, due to selection pressures in the middle ages when they were banned from manual labor and so had to do well at more intellectual professions to survive.

      • deadnomore 6 minutes ago
        I’m going to save this joke for parties. Damn you a funny guy.
    • helge9210 30 minutes ago
      Integrated selection pipeline spanning 15 years from age 4 up until age 18.
    • appreciatorBus 16 minutes ago
      Because Israel is beset on all sides, geographically, digitally and conceptually, by forces hostile to western civilization who want to destroy them at the first opportunity. Being competent at cyber is useful defensively and offensively and the existential nature is highly motivating for the people working at it every day.
      • RunSet 13 minutes ago
        > Israel is beset on all sides, geographically, digitally and conceptually, by forces hostile to western civilization who want to destroy them at the first opportunity.

        Could you name those forces?

        • cyberax 1 minute ago
          Look at the map. Then read about the Yom Kippur war, Six-Day war, conflicts with Lebanon, and so on.

          Israel now is the biggest power in the region, but it was not the case not long ago.

      • ToucanLoucan 1 minute ago
        It's wild to me that if you wrote a fictional account of a vassal state that was constructed in the center of "hostile" territory, who exercised brutal violence on all it's neighbors, including strictly for the purpose of territorial acquisition, who was funded and supplied implements of war from it's super-state that vastly exceeded it's own production capabilities, which it used to win every conflict it found itself in, and who's officials regularly make the news for calling for outright genocide, everyone would call them the bad guys. Meanwhile in the real world we just call that Israel, and waive vaguely at "complicated politics."
      • gilrain 9 minutes ago
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    • tintor 12 minutes ago
      "threat of larger enemies from its birth"?

      Israel is the one occupying and bullying its neighbors and spying on it "allies".

  • roscas 8 minutes ago
    "Researchers also recommend that users at high risk of targeting use ad blockers, disable ad tracking, and regularly reset mobile ad IDs.". Not "recommend". Everyone must use uBlock Origin or at least some type of ad blocker in every device.

    Then also mandatory pi-hole on every house.

    Even if you are used by Windows OS, you must use an adblocker. Even if you use Chrome. On every browser.

  • ChrisArchitect 1 hour ago
    • bilalq 55 minutes ago
      Buried to the fifth page. Ridiculous suppression.
      • appreciatorBus 14 minutes ago
        Stories are flagged & voted on by users.

        Stories about Israel generally devolve into factional fighting with no useful content.

        Users flag & vote accordingly.

        • RIMR 5 minutes ago
          This isn't a good answer for why a major cybersecurity story that largely throws the idea of doing business with any Israeli company ever into jeopardy (any company could be a state malware operation in disguise) to the 5th page when it was upvoted as much as it was.

          I know HN's algorithm is weird, but this story deserves to stick to the front page for more than the couple of hours the last thread lasted. I don't agree with the algorithm automatically deplatforming controversial topics.

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