10 comments

  • HeavenFox 18 minutes ago
    If they are literally sending the entire transcript and asking for a summary, wouldn't almost all of the tokens be cache hit, and therefore fairly cheap?
    • minraws 6 minutes ago
      I don't want to sound rude but even at cache hot you are burning almost input * 0.90 * context amount of tokens multiple times.

      If it happens 10 times you have already accepted the same cost as the entire session fresh prefill.

      People on HN are either too rich or wayyy too rich

    • dietr1ch 13 minutes ago
      Unless they prepend something like, "summarise this, "
      • NewsaHackO 7 minutes ago
        But they definitely wouldn’t do that.
  • creamyhorror 3 minutes ago
    Background agents only have 5 minutes' cache TTL, but I'm guessing this doesn't help extend it (not that it would be too useful anyway, especially considering the extra burn).

    Also, the claim "15-20% of your tokens" seems unclear; of all tokens, or of tokens spent on background agents? Poorly edited AI writing strikes again!

  • gym 15 minutes ago
    I was surprised the usage issue wasn't mentioned here before this based on my searching on hn.algolia.

    I'm on pro. Two days ago, 100% 5 hour was using 25% of my weekly. Today, 100% 5 hour is like 13% so something was fixed.

    • bombcar 8 minutes ago
      They very aggressively compact when the cache is about to expire, which saves a ton of tokens, the equivalent of doing a handoff at 25% or less.
      • adastra22 6 minutes ago
        I assume that is only if compact is turned on? I never use compaction.
    • OsrsNeedsf2P 12 minutes ago
      This is an A/B test
      • grim_io 9 minutes ago
        More likely it depends on the overall load of the infrastructure.
  • messh 26 minutes ago
    Bloat. I like Pi much better with it's minimalism
  • apt-apt-apt-apt 11 minutes ago
    At least they seem to have fixed their free-revenue feature-bug, where they randomly invalidate your cache (~$8 a pop (turn))
    • lifeisloving 6 minutes ago
      This is by design, its the same reason inference providers on Openrouter will advertise super cheap pricing but cache TTLs of 2 min/ 70% hit rate.

      Cache rules everything around me.

  • simianwords 4 minutes ago
    Isn’t this prompt cached? Then it’s not that big of a deal
  • quantbuilder 22 minutes ago
    i think its not the status line at the bottom of the terminal, but actually the few words summary claude generates for each background agents in the agents panel. so if we mostly run one plain session we wont pay for this? i do run claude code with disableAgentView on in my settings. does anyone know if that helps to stop the summary calls or just hides the panel?
  • helsinki 20 minutes ago
    I’m sure they release a decision model that alleviates this problem in due time.
  • rsalus 23 minutes ago
    does this happen for Claude Desktop too?
  • NikZaal 1 hour ago
    Claude Code's (CC) status summaries used 16.4% of our token spend in a week! We have investigated a source of overhead in CC: it's an agent_summary query that calls your current session/subagent model approximately every 30 seconds for a few words in CC’s status line.

    Our DRIM system flagged the anomaly in CC's OTEL traces. Grouping requests by query_source showed that over one measured week agent_summary accounted for: 16.4% of total estimated spend (versus 15.7% for the main conversation), and 19.7% of all API requests with approximately 9,000 input tokens per output token.

    Most requests reuse the prompt cache, but repeatedly reading a large cached transcript still has a cost. Longer contexts and more concurrent agents increase the overhead.

    We couldn’t find a supported setting that disables only these summaries while preserving background agents and forks. Disabling those capabilities also stops the summaries, but changes the workflow we want to keep.

    Our workaround is a small Bun preload that intercepts the summary timer without modifying the CC binary. It identifies the timer callback by source-text anchors and leaves other timers alone.

    In controlled tests on Linux (from ver 2.1.257 to 2.1.312), the same workload produced five summary calls without the hook and zero with suppression enabled. On our current production setup, agent_summary calls remained at zero with the hook enabled. Background agents and forks continued running. The only visible change was that their generated status summaries stopped updating.

    The workaround depends on implementation details. An update can break the callback matching and silently restore the requests. macOS and Windows are untested. If someone could help us with testing there, it would be much appreciated.

    If you want to try it - the script, full technical explanation, test results, and installation instructions are on GitHub: https://gist.github.com/flamerix-ai/c3905705cc4205e5de3011fa...