Introducing Pangram Image 1.0

(pangram.com)

43 points | by gmays 4 hours ago

6 comments

  • hex4def6 24 minutes ago
    At least on gemini generated images vs real ones, it works surprisingly well.

    Taking a photo of an AI generated image on my grubby laptop screen with my phone, moire and all, still got detected. So the signal it's using is pretty robust.

  • alkonaut 32 minutes ago
    Can’t these detectors be used in the training loop of models?
    • JacobAsmuth 9 minutes ago
      People have tried it, it doesn't work.
  • 74948494i4 49 minutes ago
    What’s the use case for these things?
    • tantalor 34 minutes ago
      A few likely use cases,

      1. Social media moderation. You want to limit the proliferation of this stuff because it annoys users.

      2. Trades where authenticity matters, like journalism, law, education. You have to weed out the crap and people will try to deceive you.

    • poszlem 48 minutes ago
      What's the use case for knowing when you are looking at a fake AI image and not at a real photo? Is that seriously your question?
  • my002 2 hours ago
    People often shit on AI detectors but Pangram's text AI detection has been very good, IME. Not perfect, but good enough to be useful in most circumstances.
  • xnx 1 hour ago
    I'm very skeptical of AI detection and watermarking for text (especially short passages), but AI detection for images and videos seems much more plausible (for now at least).

    I would love if Meta licensed this tech to use for everything on Facebook, Instagram, and Whatsapp. Including ads!

    • JacobAsmuth 8 minutes ago
      You should look at the data. Look at the actual measurements on the accuracy of Pangram's V4 detection model. Try to fool it. It's not easy at all.
    • mediaman 40 minutes ago
      Why are you so skeptical of text detection?

      Do you believe it generally doesn't work or do you believe that if you work at it you can evade them and therefore there's no point to it?

  • paulpauper 27 minutes ago
    just compress it? lossy should fool detection